What Benefits Are Only Available Through God?

Isn't that a bit like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse? Or maybe they seek the truth. So, Mr. Fox, you'll eat whomever you choose. Bye. Well, you're going to get it, so you can either fasten your seatbelt or bail out.

Your "liberal" government? Give your head a shake.And yes, your government, whatever its orientation, is REQUIRED by your Constitution to allow equal time. Otherwise you'd be forced to be a Puritan and you'd go to the ducking stool for smiling on Sunday. Would this be a good time to invest in barbed wire?

Buh-bye. Amazing how people react when they feel their beliefs are attacked. Now maybe you have a little feeling of how atheists feel listening to your claptrap.

Tough shit. Your beliefs are no more special or important than his. You are acting exactly as us nonbelievers expect you to act. You are no different than Faith. Faith just doesn't care at all what people think. Try it you right wing religious fascist.

Looks like Phat has finally lost the plot and gone over to the dark side where things are simple.

sounds as if you too are having a meltdown. For the record, I am more of a moderate than I am right wing. And I hardly think of myself as a fascist. You just get your panties in a bunch at the very idea of any God having any veto power over your precious free will. Quid pro Quo, Dr. Lector?

The dark side? How could I have become the very thing I was opposed to?We need to go fishing and forget all of this religious philosophy for a while. And As I said, I need to lay off the stimulants and get more exercise. Dark Side, Schmark Side

Very, very easily, you just have to achieve certainty in a belief system and start getting angry and blocking, barring and denouncing believers of different beliefs systems. Spent two days doing just that and I have no difficulty forgetting religious philosophy, for me it's just a hobby when bored. For you it seems all encompassing. That's unhealthy. No argument there.

I am not having a melt down. Crap like what you post I deal with every day. Every day I hear it from you self righteous, holier than thou christians. I just find it funny that you think people should care because you get your undies in a wad when you feel your beliefs are attacked. Welcome to the world of every atheist, everywhere. Your latest posts show that this is not true. You may think you are a moderate but you are a right wing entitled white christian. You have no idea how stupid that sounds do you? I have no belief in a God or a god. None. Therefore this thing you attribute to me can not be true.
Stop now, you are just embarrassing yourself.

If God exists, God exists regardless of what you believe. Stop embarrassing yourself.

If a god does not exist, a god does not exist regardless of what you believe.
Did you see what I just did?
If you want to continue to embarrass yourself go right ahead. There is no god, never was, never will be. If there were there would be evidence and the laws of science would not stand.
Jesus Christ is a myth. If he wasn't there would be actual contemporary, corroborated evidence for him. As there is no more for him then William Tell, they exist in the same sphere of myth.
I thought you were leaving.

Guilty as charged, except that I am a moderate entitled white Christian. Besides, the God whom I am describing is far bigger than this mere dust speck of a planet and all of our history of political and ideological oppression by white people over people of color.And I'm gonna preach a bit, so if you don't believe in freedom of speech, sue me.Or don't listen. I never listen to that demon deceived Richard Carrier either. But all anger aside, I still respect you, Theodoric. You are unafraid, to be honest, and you wear your balls on your sleeve. keep being critical of me...I need humility.

There you go, writing the laws of evidence as if you define reality yourself. Did it ever occur to you that there may be a reason that there is no evidence that God Himself allowed happening for precisely the reason of testing the human heart?

Not when those who, through no fault of their own, fail the test and suffer an eternity of torture at the hands of the proctor.

We have no evidence that they suffer for eternity. They could well be pardoned for all we know. The God I worship is not petty and vindicative...He has no need to enforce the rules He supposedly made...He is quite able to wipe them off the books.