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Author Topic:   The Flood, fossils, & the geologic evidence
Calypsis4
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Message 151 of 377 (530232)
10-12-2009 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by New Cat's Eye
10-12-2009 5:30 PM


...was deposited in a flood rather than gradually over a long period of time?
It's pretty clear to me that such terrain was laid down by flood waters. Whether this particular formation was laid down by Noah's flood or one subseqent to it is the real question.

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Perdition
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Message 152 of 377 (530233)
10-12-2009 6:13 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by Calypsis4
10-12-2009 6:10 PM


Re: Summation
Percy is The Creator and all we do are at his discretion. Cross him at your own peril.

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Granny Magda
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Message 153 of 377 (530234)
10-12-2009 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Calypsis4
10-12-2009 6:08 PM


Re: Calypsis Takes Careful Aim At His Foot
Calypsis,
This is a debate site. It exists for the purpose of debate. If you are not interested in debating, you are wasting everybody's time.
This is not your blog. If you want to sound off about your ideas without being challenged, I suggest that you get a blog.
This is not a blog. This is, just to hammer it home, a debate site.
Now debate like an adult, or go away. Now;
What species are the living fish?
What species are the fossil fish?
Why do you keep posting photo's from Harun Yahya when he is a proven liar?
Mutate and Survive

"A curious aspect of the theory of evolution is that everybody thinks he understands it." - Jacques Monod

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Calypsis4
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Message 154 of 377 (530239)
10-12-2009 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Granny Magda
10-12-2009 6:15 PM


Re: Calypsis Takes Careful Aim At His Foot
Now debate like an adult, or go away. Now;
Quiet.
You will get nothing from me because it is a waste of time communicating with you. Just like Dr. Adequate and a few others. It is really quite useless to attempt any meaningful communication.

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Richard Townsend
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Message 155 of 377 (530240)
10-12-2009 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by Calypsis4
10-12-2009 5:54 PM


Re: Summation
And what an utter heap of rubbish you have just 'dumped' Calypsis4. The lack of logic in your post is typical of what we see from creationists - leaping all over the map, making false assertions, filling your post with non-sequiturs and not understanding even the most basic ideas of evolution.
Take this for example...
quote:
Another very startling finding that demonstrates the sudden/catastrophic burial of very large creatures is a 1971 finding in Southern Mongolia of a perfectly articulated Protoceratops and a Velociraptor frozen in a life and death struggle with each other. Obviously these two creatures were buried suddenly by a huge catastrophe of magnificent proportions. The dinosaurs didn’t even have time to fall over.'
Why is this evidence for a global flood? It's not of course. if the standard 'evolutionist' explanations for this are inadequate, well, there could have been a local catastrophe of a different kind. There isn't an iota of a scintilla of a hint of an argument for a global flood here. That you cannot see this and post this as evidence in your favour boggles the mind.

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Calypsis4
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Message 156 of 377 (530241)
10-12-2009 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Perdition
10-12-2009 6:13 PM


Re: Summation
Percy is The Creator and all we do are at his discretion. Cross him at your own peril.
Really?
Well, I will wait for him to answer me himself.

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Richard Townsend
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Message 157 of 377 (530242)
10-12-2009 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by Calypsis4
10-12-2009 6:30 PM


Re: Calypsis Takes Careful Aim At His Foot
quote:
You will get nothing from me because it is a waste of time communicating with you. Just like Dr. Adequate and a few others. It is really quite useless to attempt any meaningful communication.
This behaviour too is typical of creationist posters. When challenged, ignore the challenge. Move onto something else equally flaky. Repeat ad nauseam.
How great it would be if creationists actually engaged in detailed debate on a particular topic.

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Calypsis4
Member (Idle past 5232 days)
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Message 158 of 377 (530244)
10-12-2009 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by Richard Townsend
10-12-2009 6:30 PM


Re: Summation
And what an utter heap of rubbish you have just 'dumped' Calypsis4.
Who are you?
Secondly, your ridiculous 'reply' tells me that you haven't read the evidence I posted in the last two weeks.
I would suggest you take the next couple hrs of your time reading them so you can see how much evidence I have given for it.

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Calypsis4
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Message 159 of 377 (530245)
10-12-2009 6:36 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by Richard Townsend
10-12-2009 6:33 PM


Re: Calypsis Takes Careful Aim At His Foot
This behaviour too is typical of creationist posters
Like YOU are saying something?
I don't need your opinions.
Edited by Calypsis4, : correction

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Granny Magda
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Message 160 of 377 (530249)
10-12-2009 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by Calypsis4
10-12-2009 6:30 PM


Calypsis Doesn't Seem to Understand His Own Evidence
Calypsis4 writes:
Quiet
No.
You are simply refusing to answer me because you are unable to answer my questions. The truth is that you just pulled those photo's from some site or one of Adnan Oktar's stupid books, without actually understanding them. If you don't even know what species the fish depicted actually are, you have no point and you clearly do not know.
It is really quite useless to attempt any meaningful communication.
The only communication I'm asking for is an answer to my (entirely reasonable) questions. Namely;
What species are the living fish?
What species are the fossil fish?
This would seem to be a minimum requirement to declare them to be living fossils. Now, if you want to look as though you haven't got the slightest understanding of the Islamic propaganda that you are posting, fine. If you want to make yourself look ignorant, I'll happily settle for that.
If, on the other hand, you want to defend to make a serious point, you will need to defend your claim.
What's it going to be then eh?
Mutate and Survive

"A curious aspect of the theory of evolution is that everybody thinks he understands it." - Jacques Monod

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roxrkool
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Message 161 of 377 (530254)
10-12-2009 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by Calypsis4
10-12-2009 6:12 PM


LOL
And how did you determine that, pray tell?
Oh, never mind...
Edited by roxrkool, : No reason given.

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Calypsis4
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Message 162 of 377 (530256)
10-12-2009 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by roxrkool
10-12-2009 6:59 PM


Oh, never mind...
You took the words right out of my mouth.

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ZenMonkey
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Message 163 of 377 (530257)
10-12-2009 7:10 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by Calypsis4
10-12-2009 7:04 PM


No, seriously.
By what mechanism can a single flood event deposit discrete layers of sedimentary rock? And how would you interpret the existance of discrete sedimentary layers separated by layers of igneous rock?

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JonF
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Message 164 of 377 (530261)
10-12-2009 8:04 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by Calypsis4
10-12-2009 6:10 PM


Re: Summation
He is The Administrator with a capital A, just not speaking from his administrator account.
I'm not an administrator, but you'd get a lot farther if you could be less of an asshole. Anyone is allowed to call your attention to the forum rules that you are flouting on a regular basis.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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Percy
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Message 165 of 377 (530264)
10-12-2009 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by Calypsis4
10-12-2009 6:10 PM


Re: Summation
Calypsis4 writes:
Sir, are you an administrator?
Sure am, but I'm not moderating this thread, which is why I'm only giving presentational feedback! I should also have included the suggestion to make your references into real links instead of just things like "Creation/Wiki".
In another thread you might have noticed where I told you how to keep track of your responses across all the threads you're participating in, see Message 377.
--Percy

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