My first evc post was a PNT, for some reason posted in two parts and on the subject of kinds. Post can be found
here. Apparently it died on the vine!
Here are the two parts as one:
Embryonic-Lith writes:
Okay, here is a new thread on the Creationist definition of "kinds". My hope is that any YEC's out there can help with this, the definition as I have seen it is always slippery and changes to fit any presented evidence.
Taxonomically I have seen the term fit to species (dog kind [including all breeds of dogs], human kind [modern man and some extinct variants]), family (horse kind [donkeys, horses, zebras], cat kind
It is truly a bullet-proof argument, provided that "kind" is never shackled with a consistant definition. I lieu of above, I propose the following defintiion for the YEC "kind"
Kind (n): Any taxonomic category from species to kingdom for which there is available fossil, biochemical, embryonic, or morphological evidence of transition between members of the next lowest ranking taxonomic category.
Please, any YEC's out there who have a better definition please reply. I have attempted on several occassions to pin down this definition to no avail. As I mentioned in another post, I have a correspondence with Kent Hovind that states that hermit crabs and Alaskan king crabs are a single kind, and that ALL mollusks represent a single kind (I sent him a detailed narrative of mollusk evolution based upon transitional fossils that derives modern scaphopods, bivalves, gastropods, and cephalopods from monoplacophoran ancestors with all of the transitions known). If the mollusks (a phyla) represent a kind, then it is clear that the Creator only needed to create about 33 kinds of animals. Adam was probably a lancelet or acorn worm of some type.
I do mention an earlier post(?), but this is the first one listed in my message history!
Added by edit by Adminnemooseus:
This appears to be Lithodid-Man's first post:
LM writes:
I would first like to say I have loved this thread. I am a crustacean biologist with a great interest in human evolution.
This message index shows the earliest most recent messages in the various topics. Looking into those topics, you may or may not find even earlier messages. That's how I found the above cited.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.
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