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Author Topic:   Your First Ever EVC Post
Lithodid-Man
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From: Juneau, Alaska, USA
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Message 10 of 140 (529633)
10-09-2009 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
10-09-2009 8:30 PM


Re: Yesterday All My Troubles Seemed So far Away
My first evc post was a PNT, for some reason posted in two parts and on the subject of kinds. Post can be found here. Apparently it died on the vine!
Here are the two parts as one:
Embryonic-Lith writes:

Okay, here is a new thread on the Creationist definition of "kinds". My hope is that any YEC's out there can help with this, the definition as I have seen it is always slippery and changes to fit any presented evidence.

Taxonomically I have seen the term fit to species (dog kind [including all breeds of dogs], human kind [modern man and some extinct variants]), family (horse kind [donkeys, horses, zebras], cat kind

It is truly a bullet-proof argument, provided that "kind" is never shackled with a consistant definition. I lieu of above, I propose the following defintiion for the YEC "kind"

Kind (n): Any taxonomic category from species to kingdom for which there is available fossil, biochemical, embryonic, or morphological evidence of transition between members of the next lowest ranking taxonomic category.

Please, any YEC's out there who have a better definition please reply. I have attempted on several occassions to pin down this definition to no avail. As I mentioned in another post, I have a correspondence with Kent Hovind that states that hermit crabs and Alaskan king crabs are a single kind, and that ALL mollusks represent a single kind (I sent him a detailed narrative of mollusk evolution based upon transitional fossils that derives modern scaphopods, bivalves, gastropods, and cephalopods from monoplacophoran ancestors with all of the transitions known). If the mollusks (a phyla) represent a kind, then it is clear that the Creator only needed to create about 33 kinds of animals. Adam was probably a lancelet or acorn worm of some type.

I do mention an earlier post(?), but this is the first one listed in my message history!

Added by edit by Adminnemooseus: This appears to be Lithodid-Man's first post:

LM writes:

I would first like to say I have loved this thread. I am a crustacean biologist with a great interest in human evolution.

This message index shows the earliest most recent messages in the various topics. Looking into those topics, you may or may not find even earlier messages. That's how I found the above cited.

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.


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Lithodid-Man
Member (Idle past 1068 days)
Posts: 504
From: Juneau, Alaska, USA
Joined: 03-22-2004


Message 14 of 140 (529670)
10-10-2009 3:02 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Lithodid-Man
10-09-2009 10:17 PM


Thanks Moose!
Thanks for finding that! I did not think that my first post was a PNT, but could not find an earlier one. That being said, I find myself in agreement still with myself from back then. What counts as differences between species or genera of crustaceans cannot be compared to the differences between hominin genera.

Edited by Lithodid-Man, : Clarified a sentence to make more sense


Doctor Bashir: "Of all the stories you told me, which were true and which weren't?"
Elim Garak: "My dear Doctor, they're all true"
Doctor Bashir: "Even the lies?"
Elim Garak: "Especially the lies"
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