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Author Topic:   Baby Denied Health Care Coverage For Being "Too Fat"
hooah212002
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Message 67 of 184 (530421)
10-13-2009 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Modulous
10-13-2009 11:41 AM


A general response to those opposed to Universal Health Care
Gee, it must be nice to afford health care. Oh, wait, your employer provides it? What happens when you lose your job and get sick? Tough shit. Mend that broken leg yourself, right?
I was without a job for 6 months, then picked up a job as a temp/contractor. I have worked there for a little over a year now. The company I work for (International Truck and Engine) is in a hiring freeze due to impending outsourcing of the Data Center in which I work. I have 3 kids. My "temp agency"(they call me a contractor) does not provide health care, nor can I obtain it through the company I work for since I am not technically an employee. I make too much for Badger Care. I also have pretty bad asthma and severe heartburn.
You wanna know where I get medicine for asthma? My girlfriend. I turn in here scripts for albuterol and advair because I cant fucking afford it. She, on the other hand, being a single mother with no job, gets badger care, as does here daughter. I have no problem with that.
I don't expect anyone to give two fucks about me or my family except me or my family. I just wanted to put it out there. I would gladly pay a portion of my income for everyone to have sufficient health care because I have seen both of my grandmothers die from cancer and I could not imagine seeing that had my one grandfather not worked for Chrysler and the other for Green Giant, both with stellar health care.
I can also see where the opposition comes from. However, it seems as though the only people who oppose, already HAVE health care and can't imagine not having it. You take your ability to pay for it for granted. To you I say: go shop for private health care where you would pay the monthly out of pocket.
Take this with a grain of salt. Just think about those less fortunate for once. Everyone deserves a chance for a healthy life.
{ABE} oops, i meant a general reply, not a reply to Mod.
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

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Message 72 of 184 (530458)
10-13-2009 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Phage0070
10-13-2009 3:32 PM


How do you suppose these services should be funded then?

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Message 83 of 184 (530628)
10-14-2009 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by New Cat's Eye
10-14-2009 10:07 AM


They don't change their oil ever and drive around on the donut for weeks after they get a flat tire.
Must be nice that YOU can afford that new tire or that oil change.....some people can't, and that's the point.
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Message 87 of 184 (530643)
10-14-2009 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by New Cat's Eye
10-14-2009 10:00 AM


Re: Maybe, but lets hope you can always do that
Overweight people on Medicaid with gold jewelry and $200 hair-dos getting free diabetes medication when all they have to do is get off their fat ass and lose some weight. Nah, lets just give everyone free shit so none of them have try to better themselves. We'll just let them sit around an multiply while we bust our asses and pay for them.
Do you really think those are the only people this is for? Have you NEVER heard of an honest, hard working citizen who gets ..say, cancer, and is up to their eyeballs in medical bills? So much so that they have to take out a second mortgage, can no longer work, and can no longer see their regular doctor until they pay up? What about wounded vets? Being ex-army, I sympathize the most with vets who are getting fucked in this system. I'd be glad to pay a portion of my income for my brothers in arms to recover and lead a healthy life.

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hooah212002
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Message 102 of 184 (530764)
10-14-2009 7:00 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by New Cat's Eye
10-14-2009 5:05 PM


Re: Maybe, but lets hope you can always do that
I just did a cursory search for the ehealthinsurance site you linked to. I looked at the cheapest one just for my son and I. (note: I have 3 kids and a fiance, but I just did 1 child aged 5)
Plan TypeNetwork Office Visit for Primary Doctor: Not Covered
Office Visit for Specialist: Not Covered
Coinsurance: 20% after deductible
Annual DeductibleFamily:$20,000($10,000 per person)
Separate Prescription Drugs Deductible: None
Prescription Drugs Generic: Not Covered
Brand: Not Covered
Non-Formulary: Not Covered
Annual Out-of-Pocket LimitFamily:$6,000($3,000 per person)
Does not include deductible Lifetime Maximum$: 3 Million per person Health Savings Account (HSA) Eligible: No
Out-of-Network Coverage:Yes (Details in plan brochure below)
Out of Country Coverage: Emergency Care Only Find Doctors (Search to see if your doctors are part of this plan's network.)
Physicians Primary Care Physician (PCP) Required: No
Specialist Referrals Required: No Preventive Care Coverage
Periodic Health Exam: Not Covered Periodic
OB-GYN ExamMammogram, Pap Smear, PSA Testing: 20% Coinsurance after deductible
Well Baby Care: Not Covered
Prescription Drug Coverage
Generic Prescription Drugs: Not Covered Brand
Prescription Drugs: Not Covered
And thats just half of it at 62 bucks a month. I didn't copy all the shit they don't cover. Does THAT look like a plan you would sign up for?? If so, be my guest.
Private insurance is fucking expensive my friend.

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hooah212002
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Message 162 of 184 (532209)
10-22-2009 2:51 AM
Reply to: Message 161 by Jazzns
10-22-2009 2:10 AM


Re: Rape = Pre-Existing Condition?
I was astounded and disgusted, to the point I almost vomited, when I read that article. How much longer can private insurance companies continue to go on doing this to us?

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