'Some still living' disproves literal truth of the bible

1) Jesus will come with His armies (Rev 19:14 & 19), whatever that may consist of. According to Matt 13:41 & 49, angels are used at this time by the Lord Jesus to gather stumbling blocks, those who commit lawnessness, and the wicked for judgment.2) All of the disciples living at the time of Christ died. Many living today may still be alive when Our Lord Jesus returns.3) The Lord Jesus rewards the righteous who "shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father" (Matt 13:43).BlessingsEdited by John 10:10, : No reason given.Edited by John 10:10, : No reason given.Edited by John 10:10, : No reason given.

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It may be conclusively stated that there is no definitive evidence against the authenticity of 2 Peter in spite of the fact that the majority of scholarship today rejects apostolic authorship. The external evidence, while not proving authenticity, neither disproves it, for the evidence provides twenty-two possible usages of 2 Peter. The internal evidence, particularly the personal allusions to Peter’s life, clearly means to communicate that the author is Peter. The issues regarding history, doctrine, and style are, again, not conclusively against Petrine authorship, but on the contrary, may be used to support it. Each historical problem has a viable solution which harmonizes with Peter’s hand, and the issues of doctrine and style can be attributed naturally to purpose and Peter’s use of an amanuensis.

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The more difficult position to defend is for the adherents of pseudonymity, not for the traditional authorship view. At the time of 2 Peter’s canonization, the practice of pseudonymity was scorned and had not one example of New Testament usage, while the canonical books were only admitted after careful scrutiny of genuineness. That 2 Peter was admitted validates both its authenticity and its non-pseudonymity.

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In conclusion, it may be stated that a denial of Petrine authorship cuts to the very heart of the biblical doctrine of inerrancy. How can one accept the verbal, plenary inspirationwhich would demand Petrine authorship at verse oneand still call 2 Peter canonical?72 Regardless of its late acceptance, it was accepted into the canon of Scripture. And if 2 Peter is Scripture, and if Scripture is inerrant, then the author must be the one whom the word of God says he is: Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ.73

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Is 2 Peter Peter’s? | Bible.org

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hERICTic's problem lies more in denial of the truth of Scripture that he rejects, than with Scripture he cannot understand.

Since you seem to know best what a forgery is and what a forgery is not, please answer one question for those of us who are Christians at this forum:What part of 2 Peter violates or abrogates any other part of the cannon of Scripture written by any other writer, including Peter, or presents any truth essential to God’s salvation in Christ Jesus that is different than presented elsewhere in Scripture?Could it be the part you have the most problem with is Peter’s support of Paul writings in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction (2 Pet 2:3:16)?

You never responded to my post as to why you think 2 Peter is a forgery. Maybe it's because you can point to nothing in 2 Peter that disagrees with what he wrote in 1 Peter, or with what any of the other wrtiers of the New Covenant wrote.I've found that most Bible scholars such as those you are referring to treat the Bible like a book of rescipes, endlessly disecting the correctness of words of the rescipe, but never entering into the purpose of the Bible rescipe which is to "eat the words" so that they become eternal life to you.When Peter said "the end of all things is at hand" (1 Pet 4:7), Peter was saying that God's purpose in creating the universe, placing man on planet earth, and the end of God's purpose for creating man was at hand - the redemption of man from his sins through the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ. God has been in the "end of all things" redemption business for 2000 years, and the final end time events according to Zech 14 are soon to take place."The Lord will be king over all the earth" (Zech 14:9}. If one does not recognize Jesus as Lord by choice now, there will be no choice then!

As the Spirit of the Lord inspired the writers of the New Covenant to write the NT, a distinction was made between "the end times" and "the day of the Lord."We've been in "the end times" since Acts 2 when our Lord ascended to sit at the right hand of the God the Father.The "Day of the Lord" (2 Thess 2:2) will come when the Church on earth completes the work He has called us to do according to Matt 24:14.We can split hairs until our Lord Jesus returns concerning what the Bible recipes say. The ultimate question is whether or not one has eaten the recipes, receiving the eternal life God gives thru our Lord.BlessingsEdited by John 10:10, : No reason given.

There are several clear signs revealed in Matt 24 that will precede our Lord's coming:(1) 14 "This gospel of the kingdom (where Jesus is Lord of heaven and earth) shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come."(2) 30 "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory."Has the Church finished the work of preaching this gospel of the kingdom in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations?Has the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the sky?When these two things take place, the end of this Church age will end with the coming of our Lord.Are you ready for our Lord's coming?Edited by John 10:10, : No reason given.Edited by John 10:10, : No reason given.

My understanding of Scripture is that our Lord has commanded His people, the Church in the earth, to carry the gospel of the kingdom where He is Lord to the ends of the earth for a witness, and then the end of the age will come.Yes, the gospel of the kingdom means everything Jesus has said, but it starts with sinners in every nation, tribe and tongue repenting of their sins and allowing Jesus to be Lord of their lives. How shall they hear this message without a preacher being sent? (Rom 10:11-15)Any thoughts what the sign of the Son of Man will be in the sky that prededes His coming?Blessings

My eschatology concerning what will happen at the end of the age is very simple.Jesus revealed in Matt 13 that the wheat & tares and the good & bad fish would grow together until the final harvest, then the unrighteousnes will be taken out for judgemnt.God's word to me is to occupy until our Lord comes (if I live that long), taking as many prisoners as I can who are enslaved in the kingdom of darkness and leading them to our Lord's kingdom of light.As for the Matt 24:30 sign in the heavens that will precede our Lord's coming, I too believe it will be supernatural and will visible for all the world to see, possibly a huge burning cross.Blessings

Yes, I've heard that one. There are also Mid Tribers.Christians seem to be all over the place concerning when they believe Jesus will return. For me, I rely primarily on the teachings of Jesus, what He calls us to do until He returns.The reason I said the cross could be the sign in the heavens preceding our Lord's return are these verses:John 3;14-15 "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.John 12:32 "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself."Blessings

Yes, many will be totally surprised at our Lord's coming. But the "sons of light and sons of day" (1 Thess 5:5) will not be surprised. Let us be alert and sober (vs 6) until He comes or takes us home.For me, if I'm still alive on earth during the days preceding our Lord's return, I want to be a part of these overcoming Believers:Matt 24:13-14 "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come."Blessings

I have no objections to being a part of our Lord's admonitions in Luke 21:26, and maybe leaving this earth like Enoch and Elijah before our Lord returns at the end of the age.But escape from the things that are about to take place on the earth could mean being like Noah & his family, or Daniel & his three friends - we go through as overcomers with God's protection.That too is spiritual warfare.BlessingsEdited by John 10:10, : No reason given.

For me, it's finishing the work on earth our Lord has called us to do."Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say ?" Luke 6:46When my life on earth in centered on this, when I leave this earth is in His hands, not mine.Blessings

Unfaithful servants may leave before their time on earth is finished. But I believe the Lord is in charge of graduation day for all of His faithful servants. Doing the will of God on earth is the only standard for which I believe Believers will be judged.'Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a few things, I will set you over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.' (Matt 25:23)Blessings

Unfaithful servants are those who do not do God's will on earth or leave their calling, and God calls them home before their time. Paul says a number of those who do not judge the body rightly sleep (1 Cor 11:29-30), meaning they die before their time.Faithful servants are those who do God's will on earth, becoming God's overcomers in every age, including the last one; and God calls us home at the right time.If pre-trib rapture is God's reward for the faithful and this happens during our life time, I will be there with you.If pre-trib rapture is not God's truth and God calls us to go thru the tribulation as overcomers, will you be there with me?Blessings Edited by John 10:10, : added clarification

I too do not believe for a nanosecond that God's prophetic word has failed, or that God has failed to impart to mankind all truth necessary for sinner man to be able to enter into eternal life in our Lord Jesus Christ.What maybe has failed is our full understanding of God's prophetic word. For me, I keep an open mind, searching daily for a better understanding of how God's prophetic word is related to past events on earth and now relates to current events on earth, if we are indeed in the final days before the end of this age.BlessingsEdited by John 10:10, : added word