'Some still living' disproves literal truth of the bible

I think it goes further than that.John marveled when he saw this whore Babylon the Great the mother of prostitutes. My feeling is that he saw prophetically how degraded Christianity would become, and he marveled in amazement, negatively.But God still obtains His overcomers. He still obtains His Bride and Wife who accompanies Him to put down the Antichrist and the devil at Armageddon. I usually hang around the Bible Study Forum. I don't have a well defined position about this inerrancy matter.The copies of Scripture clearly evidence typos, mistakes, and errors. I think at present my belief is that the originals were without error.Now no one has ever seen one of these original inerrant autographs, true. But then again no one has ever seen an errant one either.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

When it comes to "failed prophecies" there is usually a span of time in which the temptation is strong to believe in failure.Look at the promise of deliverance from Pharoah by Moses. The moment Pharoah demanded that they gather their own straw and stop being so idle, they must have complained about "failed prophecy".Quite a few times from Exodus into the 40 years wandering in the wilderness the people murmured about "failed prophecy".Someone greater than Moses is here now in Jesus Christ. Should I expect that there would be no jeerings of "failed prophecy" from the world and even theologically ?You have to look back at the track record of the Divine. You have to go back and review God's ways, His resume.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

I too do not believe for a nanosecond that God's prophetic word has failed, or that God has failed to impart to mankind all truth necessary for sinner man to be able to enter into eternal life in our Lord Jesus Christ.What maybe has failed is our full understanding of God's prophetic word. For me, I keep an open mind, searching daily for a better understanding of how God's prophetic word is related to past events on earth and now relates to current events on earth, if we are indeed in the final days before the end of this age.BlessingsEdited by John 10:10, : added word

Would you comment on your take on Matthew 16:10-13.Here the disciples question Jesus about fulfillment of prophecy. There seems a lesson within His answer.What do you think He is teaching there ?

In Matt 16:10-13 Jesus seems to be saying not to look to the opinions/teachings of what men have to say about God, but look to the truth of whom Christ declares Himself to be. This leads to the truth of vs 19 where Jesus reveals that the only true work can we do on earth in His name is work that has already been done by Him in heaven.Blessings

Serious question - why then do you enter into this debate? If you cannot accept, even for a nanosecond, any kind of rational alternative are you simply responding for some other kind of self gratification? Open to anything? Even to the prospect of a failed prophecy? Seems not..HmmmI see you are fitting your "evidence": To your conclusion:

This reply was shared with a Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. I do not expect most unbelievers will accept this truth, but it may cause some sinners to enter into the salvation our Lord gives,"Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself." (Acts 2:38-39).

Cool story, however, does your reply change when it is shared with an 'unbeliever'?

I know God's word has never failed to save those who repent according to Acts 2:38, those the Lord our God is calling to Himself according to Acts 2:39.Maybe you would like to show the Believers at this forum where/when you think God's prophetic word has failed?

There are so many instances in scripture of failed prophecy. Only through lying and/or delusion can one make them work.A crystal clear on is Matthew 16. It clearly speaks of Jesus returning during his disciples lifetime.Matthew 24 is even more specific. I tried with Jay to show this, but he refused to actually engage in a mature debate.Perhaps you would like to have a civil discussion on this?Finally, after much prodding, Jay stated that Matthew 24 has the disciples asking Jesus for sign that he shall return.Jay then admitted that the signs were for those in the time line as well as those today (you or those in the future).Do you agree with this assessment?

Ecclesiastes 11:5 (New International Version)5 As you do not know the path of the wind,
or how the body is formed in a mother's womb,
so you cannot understand the work of God,
the Maker of all things.These verses prophesy that man can not track the wind nor understand fetal development. Through weather satellites, developmental biology, genetics, and ultrasound we now know these things. Failed prophesy.

There is a big difference between Jesus "coming in His kingdom" (Matt 16:28) which he did after His resurrection (Matt 28:18-20), and Jesus "coming again" (John 14:3) to be Lord over all the earth (Zech 14:9).Those who refuse our Lord's salvation kingdom now will not be a part of His kingdom when He comes again.It's as simple and as difficult as that!

You didnt address anything. You asked about failed prophecy, yet ignored Matthew 24.Are we in agreement that in Matthew 24 that his disciples ask when Jesus will return and Jesus gives a list of signs that will precede his return?Are we in agreement that the end times are to occur once?Are we in agreement that Matthew 25 refers to the return of Jesus?Are we in agreement that Revelation 22 refers to Jesus and his return?

As for the Matt 16:28 "some" seeing the Son of Man coming in His kingdom, I seem to have read in Rev 19 where John was given a vision of our Lord's future return at the end of the age.As for Matt 24, the end of the age will come when the Church on earth finishes the work on earth our Lord has called us to do in verse 14,"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come."Will you be a part of this work our Lord Jesus has called us to do?