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Author Topic:   The Psychology Behind the Belief in Heaven and Hell
AdminPD
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Message 2 of 410 (531035)
10-15-2009 8:40 PM


Do you want this in Faith and Belief or do you have another preference?
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AdminPD
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Message 4 of 410 (531092)
10-16-2009 5:19 AM


Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Thread copied here from the The Psychology Behind the Belief in Heaven and Hell thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

  
AdminPD
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Message 347 of 410 (536073)
11-19-2009 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 346 by Dawn Bertot
11-19-2009 2:05 PM


Keep to the Topic
quote:
Wooooow, You must have some special powers that no one else has, could you please explain this and how it happens, because I would pay money for it. actually at present I would just like for you to explain to me how you can LITERALLY see the PAST EVENTS. Now notice I did not say the results of what you believe the evidence to suggests, but the ACTUAL PAST EVENTS, that are invisible to us now.
This should be interesting.
It might be interesting, but it would be off topic. Please keep to the topic.
It would be nice if you and/or Onifire would summarize how this current A&E banter ties in with the topic before it runs amuck.
Thanks
AdminPD

Usually, in a well-conducted debate, speakers are either emotionally uncommitted or can preserve sufficient detachment to maintain a coolly academic approach.-- Encylopedia Brittanica, on debate

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Message 361 of 410 (537061)
11-26-2009 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 357 by DevilsAdvocate
11-26-2009 8:24 AM


Topic Reminder
Here is the OP to hopefully help get the thread back on path.
I am not sure if this topic has been discussed yet or not but I would like to investigate the rational many Christians and other religious people have in justifying a certain religious belief. This religious belief entails their willingness to accept the reward by God of going to eternal bliss in heaven for eternity while at the same time accepting the fate of even their closest friends and family members spending eternity in everlasting torment, torture and excruciating pain and agony forever which makes the holocaust and any other man-made atrocity a mere slap on the wrist compared to this appalling set of conditions.
I myself am troubled by a religious person's acceptance of this atrocious contracted arrangement by their so-called deity. This is not necessarily limited to the Christian community. However, they are the ones who I have seen that have capitalized on this the most.
I would like to watch both sides of this debate to see how religious people can justify these actions and statements and see if my above statements have merit or are totally off mark.
Just to be clear that Christianity does focus around the concepts of heaven and hell here are a few excerpt from the Bible which confirm the Christian's belief that those who do not accept God will be thrown into hell for eternity: (See Message 1)
Participants, please try to tie your position back to the topic and not run astray for tiny details.
Also please remember to argue the position and not the person. Refrain from snide remarks and personal characterizations. Also refrain from writing one line posts that don't further the discussion. Updates aren't needed.
Remember, this is a debate board and not a chat board. There are forums for chat-like discussions.

Usually, in a well-conducted debate, speakers are either emotionally uncommitted or can preserve sufficient detachment to maintain a coolly academic approach.-- Encylopedia Brittanica, on debate

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Message 364 of 410 (537177)
11-27-2009 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 363 by Dawn Bertot
11-27-2009 10:31 AM


Subtitle Change
Participants please try to make the subtitle give a glimpse of what the post is about.
The "final final thoughts" doesn't really fit anymore.
Thanks
AdminPD

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AdminPD
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Message 388 of 410 (537513)
11-29-2009 6:06 AM
Reply to: Message 386 by Dawn Bertot
11-29-2009 2:37 AM


Argue The Position, Not The Person
I'm answering this in Admin mode because this is a rule you seem to have trouble following.
EMA writes:
Interesting here, in another place you say Pharoah didnt have a choice, it was all orchestrated by God, now you seem to be saying these stories here are real and these people actually made a decision to lie with Gods appoval. maybe you could clear up this seeming contradictory mess nad let us know which parts of the Bible you quoted are actual stories, real, fabrications or simple illustrations. heck you cant even make it clear to us what the case is in this situation, much less provide the PLAIN and SIMPLE text that directly states by God that lying is acceptable in some situations.
In this paragraph you are bringing in issues from other threads, from different forums that do not apply to this thread. Each thread is a separate debate, with its own parameters given the forum in which it resides or the originators preferences. The position a person takes in any debate may or may not be their own personal position outside this board. The position a person takes on any given subject may or may not even be the same position they've argued previously.
Please stick to the subject of the current thread and parameters set for this discussion by the forum and/or the originator.
Argue the position presented in the thread, not the person or positions presented in other threads.
If you take issue with my Admin comments, then take your complaints to the "Report discussion problems" thread. Do not respond in this thread.
Thanks
AdminPD
P.S. This goes for all participants in this thread. Argue the position, not the person.
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Usually, in a well-conducted debate, speakers are either emotionally uncommitted or can preserve sufficient detachment to maintain a coolly academic approach.-- Encylopedia Brittanica, on debate

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