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Author Topic:   Creationists think Evolutionists think like Creationists.
Parasomnium
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Message 326 of 485 (571297)
07-31-2010 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 318 by Bolder-dash
07-31-2010 6:56 AM


Re: How evolutionists think...
Bolder-dash writes:
I think the point is that you seem prepared to already decide that it is not possible to ever study any super-natural activity [...]
There is a difference between studying super-natural phenomena and studying claims of super-natural phenomena. Since science can only study natural phenomena, anything genuinely super-natural - if such things exist - is by definition beyond the reach of science. But what science can do is study claims of super-natural phenomena, on the assumption that, notwithstanding the claim, either something natural is going on, which can then be assessed and provided an explanation for, or nothing is happening at all, which then puts the burden of proof on the claimant.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

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Parasomnium
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Message 332 of 485 (571312)
07-31-2010 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 327 by Bolder-dash
07-31-2010 10:47 AM


Re: How evolutionists think...
They can study claims of the super-natural-and if the claims can not be proven false...then?
If the claims cannot be proven false then clearly something is going on. Further investigation usually reveals a natural cause for whatever is happening. But if a natural cause cannot be found, this does not necessarily mean that it doesn't exist. Nor does it mean that it must be the case that one particular (usually parochial) super-natural cause explains the observations. It just means that something is happening for which we currently lack the understanding to explain it.
I know of one theory that makes claims, and says if you can't prove it wrong it must be true
Well, what is it?

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

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Parasomnium
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Message 337 of 485 (571330)
07-31-2010 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 334 by Bolder-dash
07-31-2010 11:19 AM


Re: How evolutionists think...
Bolder-dash writes:
[...]if evidence points one direction-such as towards the super-natural-then instead of acknowledging where it points, we get to throw in our special exemption (we should name this, the super duper super loophole?) which says whenever it appears to be the thing we don't want it to be, we get to say-cause unknown.
Through-out humanity's history, the evidence for all manner of things "pointed" to one or more gods going their way. I think it's safe to say that ninety-nine point nine percent of these supposedly super-natural phenomena have been satisfactorily explained by science as being perfectly natural occurrences.
From that any thinking person should be able to draw the logical conclusion about evidence seemingly pointing to super-natural causes. The super-natural is not what we don't want to be the cause of things, but what we have learned on countless occasions simply isn't, whether we want it or not.
About your example: it's quite obvious that science's theory of evolution on the one hand, and your conception and knowledge of it on the other, are miles apart.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

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