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Author Topic:   Creationists think Evolutionists think like Creationists.
Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 189 of 485 (570415)
07-27-2010 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 188 by Bolder-dash
07-27-2010 9:51 AM


Re: How evolutionists think...
Ho, well science can certainly be wrong.
Yes, it can. And all scientists accept that it can. Which is fundamental to the integrity of science, and is the point behind this whole topic.

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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 195 of 485 (570435)
07-27-2010 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by Bolder-dash
07-27-2010 11:05 AM


Re: How evolutionists think...
You look wherever the evidence points you. Even if that is non-materialistic.
What is "non-materialistic evidence"?

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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 226 of 485 (570651)
07-28-2010 4:51 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by marc9000
07-27-2010 7:34 PM


Bluejay:
I have learned a great deal about atheists from this website. Atheists only rarely think of the world as meaningless: they often perceive a meaning for the world and for their lives that is as profound and as deep as any meaning that you and I, as religious folks, perceive.
marc9000:
You maybe, but not myself. An atheistic meaning to life is created to harmonize with the meaninglessness in Darwinism.
I always think it's important in these discussions to remember that most atheists, at least in my part of the world, don't even think of themselves as atheists, and, although they will be vaguely aware of it, they have no in-depth knowledge of Darwin's Theory of Evolution, or the concept of Darwinism. It's also the case that they would have no idea what you were talking about if you mentioned Creationism, or the New Atheist Movement. Society is not so cleanly divided between Atheists and the Religious, or Evolutionists and Creationists, as these discussions often imply.
Most people just want to follow the basic human instincts to grow up, have a family and a home, and just make their way through life while socialising with friends and family, and generally conforming to local customs. I think that applies to most people whether or not they harbour a belief in the supernatural.
In my experience, if you attempt to raise any kind of ontological discussion in most social situations the barriers come down very quickly. I think most people are actually frightened of considering these things and just prefer to live in the bubble they construct around them, which is all that is generally necessary to get them through the day. That's as far as they look for any meaning in life.

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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 271 of 485 (570893)
07-29-2010 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 266 by Bolder-dash
07-29-2010 7:53 AM


Re: How evolutionists think...
You are asking for examples of thought experiments that show evidence of non--materialism, but you are already saying they have all been proven wrong.
Stop beating about the bush and just give us 1 example of these thought experiments that prove (or at least provide substantial evidence for) a "non-material" or "supernatural" cause.
Edited by Jumped Up Chimpanzee, : No reason given.

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