crashfrog responds to me:
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But it seems to me that there's little reason to suspect that even if someone could do psychic surgery, or remote viewing, or mental telepathy or whatever, they're able to do so by fundamentally metaphysical or supernatural means.
Well, that gets to the question of just what is meant by "supernatural." Depending on how one defines "natural," there is no such thing as "supernatural" because everything is "natural"...just not necessarily easy or capable of being done by a particular being.
Humans cannot breathe water "naturally." That doesn't make breathing water "supernatural." It just means that the method of extracting oxygen from water is not present in the biology of humans and cannot be done.
This is a kin to the claim that we should worship god because god created us. Well, on a much more visceral level, my parents created me but that hardly means I owe them any worship and they are certainly not gods. Just because a being is tremendously powerful doesn't mean he is god.
I don't have a good answer for the distinction between "natural" and "supernatural." Let's assume that the Second Law is true but there is a being that seemingly can break it at will. Well, it has to be done somehow. There is a process involved. That process is "natural" even if none of us are capable of it.
This is connected to the question of god and good: Is it good because god does it or does god do it because it's good? Are the "laws of physics" immutable and thus wouldn't someone who could break them be "supernatural" or is that just evidence that the "laws of physics" aren't what we think they are?
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