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Big_Al35
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Message 16 of 485 (568490)
07-06-2010 9:31 AM


One of the key differences in creationist thinking and evolutionary thinking has not been mentioned. Creationists like to think of themselves as optimists; they believe in an afterlife, morals and good nature and that these attributes are worth pursuing. Evolutionary thinking however is very pessimistic. They believe in survival of the fittest, kill or be killed, anything goes. Success is measured in terms of still being around to see the death of all those around you.
You can see that evolution paints a horrific picture even if it is factually correct. (I am not saying that it is mind) It needs to work on its salesmanship.

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Message 20 of 485 (568501)
07-06-2010 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Theodoric
07-06-2010 10:32 AM


Re: The case may rest
If every thought I had about evolutionists confirms that I think that they think like creationists then where will the contributions to this debate come from. Do you only want evolutionists to post? After all a creationist can't think correctly right?

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Big_Al35
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Message 22 of 485 (568504)
07-06-2010 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Coragyps
07-06-2010 11:06 AM


Re: The case may rest
Coragyps writes:
But you are so terribly misinformed and/or ignorant about what the evolution side of the debate actually says that it muddles things up
Ahh...so you do want only evolutionists to post. That's fine with me.

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Message 25 of 485 (568510)
07-06-2010 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Theodoric
07-06-2010 11:17 AM


Re: The case may rest
Theodoric writes:
When you post the crap you do saying that "evolutionists" have no morals and we stand for something horrific, I rightfully get mad. If you find offense at that tough shit. I will not stand idly by as you insult me.
Good grief...I think I touched a nerve!

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Big_Al35
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Message 31 of 485 (568517)
07-06-2010 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Coragyps
07-06-2010 11:26 AM


Re: The case may rest
And you can be pretty entertaining to attempt to educate
I'm not sticking around for your entertainment value.

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Message 44 of 485 (568601)
07-07-2010 5:04 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by tomato
07-06-2010 2:39 PM


tomato writes:
Big Al, if you know of any Evolutionist who said or wrote that "anything goes," then let's see some documentation.
I don't mean to be rude but you are typical of how evolutionists think. "let's see some documentation". Other typical quotes from evolutionists include "where's the evidence", "prove it", "show me one person who" etc etc....

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Big_Al35
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Message 46 of 485 (568605)
07-07-2010 5:38 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Huntard
07-07-2010 5:23 AM


Huntard writes:
And what exactly is so terrible about those questions?
If there is nothing wrong with these questions then I guess you wont mind me asking for a source for the following quote.
tomato writes:
We are told that God is infinite in love.

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Big_Al35
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Message 48 of 485 (568608)
07-07-2010 6:05 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by Huntard
07-07-2010 5:47 AM


Of course I don't, the source for that quote is Message 41 by tomato. If you want to know where he got it, I suggest asking him. Though I suspect it's from some Christian website or another.
Thank you for that....utterly pointless but thank you.

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Message 49 of 485 (568610)
07-07-2010 6:33 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by tomato
07-06-2010 11:38 PM


tomato writes:
I did a quick Web search and found that Obama was an Evolutionist. I said that the White people in the United States had better watch out, because they are going to be sent to the gas chambers any day now.
A quick websearch from me revealed that Obama believes that evolution and creation are not incompatible. Actually he believes in both.
Secondly, you appear to be indicating that evolutionists are bad people in your second sentence. Theodoric might have something to say about that. You don't want to get him angry, you wont like him when he's angry.

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Message 51 of 485 (568615)
07-07-2010 7:22 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by Huntard
07-07-2010 6:56 AM


That was a response to people like you who think that evolutionists are evil people
This one post here confirms the whole premise of the OP if you interchange the terms evolutionist and creationist. It is even a good example of Poe's Law in action. You are becoming a parody of yourself.

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Big_Al35
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Message 57 of 485 (568627)
07-07-2010 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Theodoric
07-07-2010 9:00 AM


Theodoric writes:
OH and you are ok with people stating things and having nothing to back themselves up.
I'm fine with that. You seem to think that creationists should think like evolutionists.

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Big_Al35
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Message 59 of 485 (568629)
07-07-2010 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by tomato
07-07-2010 9:24 AM


tomato writes:
Turn it around: suppose that it were the Evolutionists putting words in the mouths of Creationists. Wouldn't you ask for documentation?
You make it sound like one of us is an illegal immigrant who needs papers to prove their status. Either you believe the creationist is an illegal alien or you believe that the evolutionist is the bogus asylum seeker. As a creationist I would say it is the evolutionist who needs to display his green card while you are arguing that it is the creationist who needs to show his right to indefinate leave to remain.
Neither approach is helpful.

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Message 66 of 485 (568720)
07-14-2010 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by Taq
07-07-2010 11:39 AM


Taq writes:
How do evolutionists think, in your opinion? Please keep in mind that about 30% of biologists world wide believe in some form of a creator god and an afterlife.
Yes, I think there maybe some closet creationists here. Sounds like you maybe one of them....eh?

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Message 115 of 485 (569246)
07-21-2010 7:04 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by Dr Adequate
07-17-2010 9:31 PM


Dr Adequate writes:
And that people who think they're Napoleon should think like people who don't.
If you know anyone who thinks they are the actual famous/historical Napoleon have you suggested psychiatric treatment to them?

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