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Author Topic:   Adding information to the genome.
traderdrew
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Message 266 of 280 (538716)
12-09-2009 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 264 by Percy
12-09-2009 10:58 AM


Re: no
I can remove your posting privileges for this forum if need be.

Percy,

I don't think his comment warranted the threat of removing his posting privileges. But now since I have put myself into the mix here....

How about HGT (horizontal gene transfers) between organisms? This seems to be something that I could explore further. Huntard believes one type of mutation called frameshift mutations can add information to the genome.

Some of you might be wondering which side I am on. I am on the intelligent design side. There is that issue of coherence. I also ask, how much of these theoretical evolutionary advancements are happening in labs across the world? There is that issue of shedding unnecessary information out of organisms.

Whether Darwinism is true on a grand scale or not, I don't think there was a steady linear increase of information in the genome since some 3.5 billion years ago. The world shouts chaos to me. The Cambrian explosion was an example of a rapid increase of information for new phyla.


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traderdrew
Member (Idle past 3351 days)
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From: Palm Beach, Florida
Joined: 04-27-2009


Message 269 of 280 (538721)
12-09-2009 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 267 by Wounded King
12-09-2009 11:38 AM


Re: HGT not really the heart of the matter
Hi Wounded King,

I was reading some of our old debate the other day and I had the impression you were having fun with me. That is OK. I respect your knowledge as a scientist. If I could do it again, I think I would concentrate on a slower one on one debate instead of dividing my mental abilities among you and others who gang up on me in this forum.

Coherence is something (in my current state of mind) where the codons (not condons :-) 'from an old debate where W.K. corrected me.') generate appropriate function. I would think you don't necessarily need the entire protein to have specific codons, with little margin of error, to perform a "specific function" since I have noticed only a small part of an enzyme can perform a function. There is also coherence where proteins bind to each other and act as teams.


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traderdrew
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Message 272 of 280 (538730)
12-09-2009 1:00 PM
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12-09-2009 12:05 PM


Re: Coherence
There is also the appearance of coherence in the area (you told me about) where proteins fold. I believe this is the "barrel shaped object" Stephen Meyer told us about where he narrated a video that can be found on various websites. You told us about the ph factors and biochemicals I never heard about. All of these factors being equal then we would expect proteins to fold the same way.

There is also coherence in the 200 proteins that enable the cilium to operate and the synchronous movements these cilium appear to employ when I watch a video of an organism using cilium to move.


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