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Message 18 of 100 (532961)
10-27-2009 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by RAZD
10-27-2009 4:49 AM

On Floods, Eruptions, and Disruptions
RAZD writes:
On extinction of human populations that is not explained thoroughly is the dissappearance of the Anassazi indians during drought conditions
But they came much later (beginning around 1200 B.C., and ending 1150 to 1350 AD) and may have merge with other tribes (either intentionally or by forced slavery).
But no evidence of flood in this time.
Hi RAZD, best of wishes for the #1 quality poster!
I realize that this may be an off-topic diversion, but I understand you are bringing up the Anasazi as an example of a civilization that disappeared due to drought conditions as opposed to any purported 'global flood.'
Having lived in the area for 17 years a while back, I hope it would not be impertinent for me to make a few comments.
First, I think the consensus is that the Anasazi did not completely disappear off the face of the earth due to an extended drought but rather underwent a major upheaval that reduced the population and caused the abandonment of some cities. I think it is rather obvious that the several so-called Pueblo tribes, given the similarities in building style, pottery, jewelry, and other artifacts are likely the direct descendants of the so-called Anasazi, if not genetically then at least culturally, but most likely a mix of both IMO.
Also, if one seeks to look at some catastrophe as a cause of this disruption in the continuation of the Anasazi culture, there are two other events that occurred around 1200 AD that may be considered contributors.
First is the appearance of the Apache and Din (Navajo) Indians from their original home in the Pacific Northwest, as they originally often found it easier to swipe the production of others rather than engage in the tedious labor of agriculture.
Second (and this one is under-researched), there was a volcanic eruption about 50 miles south of Grants, NM in around 1200 AD that sent a huge lava flow 80 miles to the north. If not a local climate changer, I'm sure it made an impression in other spheres of environmental understanding amongst the then current population.
Back to the subject, notice how none of these informed speculations involve a global flood. However considering the third potential cause, would anyone like to comment on the relationship between Minoan civilization, Santorini, and the myth of Atlantis? (naturally in another thread).
Please pardon my diversion, just thought I finally had something to add to the discussion.
Edited by anglagard, : avoid redundant words in same sentence, English is too big for such redundancy.
Edited by anglagard, : use Din instead of Dine

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