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ZenMonkey
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Message 47 of 100 (562441)
05-28-2010 8:18 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by greentwiga
05-28-2010 10:45 AM


Re: A flood of flood mythes.
greentwiga writes:
If the flood was 3,000 BC, there would be few records. Still, Jericho has an occupation record that covers all flood dates.
Um, I'm not sure if you're talking about no records before or no records after the flood, but I believe that what the evidence should show is plenty of durable records (e.g. stone carvings) and maybe some few perishible records from before the Flood, then nothing at all anywhere on Earth for decades or even hundreds of years, until Noah's descendents started repopulating the globe. Not something that would happen in just a couple of months.
And doesn't the fact the Jericho's record of continuous inhabitation going back further than any proposed flood date kinda also make you suspect that the Flood never happened? The mass extinction of almost every living thing on the planet is usually the sort of thing that somebody will remember to mention in the records.

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-John Lydon
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ZenMonkey
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Message 50 of 100 (562471)
05-29-2010 1:30 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by greentwiga
05-28-2010 11:13 PM


Re: A flood of flood mythes.
greentwiga writes:
Jericho does show that the flood never reached there, but the verbal stories, later written down, showing that the flood reached all the way to Kish, agree with a regional flood.
Are you talking about Kish near Babylon and Baghdad (elevation 112 feet above sea level) between the Tigris and Euphrates? So your flood couldn't make it all the way across a few hundred miles of what looks like pretty flat country to cover Jericho (846 ft BELOW sea level), but could somehow manage to carry the Ark hundreds of miles further north to put it on top of Mount Ararat in Turkey (elevation 16,854 feet above sea level)?
Can you tell me how that makes any sense at all?

I have no time for lies and fantasy, and neither should you. Enjoy or die.
-John Lydon
What's the difference between a conspiracy theorist and a new puppy? The puppy eventually grows up and quits whining.
-Steven Dutch

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ZenMonkey
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Message 57 of 100 (562486)
05-29-2010 4:20 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by greentwiga
05-29-2010 2:25 AM


Re: sanity check
greentwiga writes:
The main points that I make are that a marsh flood can last over a year, the reed boat can be huge, It could hold the Sumerian animals, that all the holy mountains of the region could have been covered, and the ark could have landed on a ziggurat or some other sacred mountain of the marsh region.
Okay, yes. Maybe things could have happened that way. As long as we're discussing everything possible that could have happened, may I introduce you to my Robot Monkey Flood Hypothesis, as first postulated in Message 61 in the Creationist experiment to prove the possibility of Noah's ark thread?
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1. Noah did not actually have to do most of the labor building the Ark. Robot monkeys are easily programmed to do basic construction work.
2. Likewise gathering all the animals two by two. Robot monkeys equipped with jet packs cound have traveled quickly around the globe to collect all necessary "kinds."
3. Robot monkeys doen't need to sleep, so they can take care of all the animals around the clock.
4. Robot monkeys can also use their jet packs to fly out to all the floating vegetation mats to tend to insects too.
5. If the Ark were also equipped with a Matter-Antimatter Transmutation Fabricator (which the Robot Monkeys would also be able to build), then it would be easy to recycle waste matter back into fresh, nutritious food.
6. Radiation leakage from a broken Robot Monkey Atomic Power Pack could also have affected atomic decay rates around the globe, rendering all radiometric dating techniques invalid. This indicates to me that at least one Robot Monkey did not survive the whole voyage.
7. Robot Monkeys could also have a combined data storage capacity big enough to contain all the information they'd need to retrain young animals that were raised on the Ark to return to life in the wild.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that there weren't any robot monkeys, so I consider the fact that there could have been robot monkeys to be just as convincing at three-story high gopher wood boats that were really made out of reeds carrying every animal that breathes on board, which really only means those living in the immediate area of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, in order to survive a worldwide flood that really only affected certain selected parts of the Near East, ending up on the top of a mountain that was really a Babylonian pyramid, while leaving no physical evidence that any of this actually happened.
I find the robot monkeys much more likely.

I have no time for lies and fantasy, and neither should you. Enjoy or die.
-John Lydon
What's the difference between a conspiracy theorist and a new puppy? The puppy eventually grows up and quits whining.
-Steven Dutch

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