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glowby
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From: Fox River Grove, IL
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Message 79 of 100 (562701)
05-31-2010 11:05 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Flyer75
05-29-2010 1:43 PM


Picking and choosing
Flyer writes:
But why would someone pick and choose what is real in the Bible if one wants to follow Christ?
I think a rational Christian has no choice but to pick and choose what is real in the Bible. A rather basic education in the sciences of astronomy, geology, or biology leaves no doubt that a literal interpretation of the Bible is impossible. These sciences all prove an old earth. Many good-hearted people who are untrained in these sciences - Christian and otherwise - understand and appreciate the knowledge and technologies they bring to us.
Are these people supposed to unlearn what they've learned, in order to follow Christ correctly? Should an astronomer repent each time he uses a formula that is based on the lie that the universe is billions of years old? If a geologist wanted to convert to Christianity, but had already seen first-hand that a global flood could never have occurred, would your church turn him away? And what about the biologist who has seen a thousand times the unmistakable mark of evolution in his work? Excommunication?

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glowby
Member (Idle past 115 days)
Posts: 75
From: Fox River Grove, IL
Joined: 05-29-2010


Message 97 of 100 (562810)
06-01-2010 9:57 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Flyer75
05-31-2010 11:36 PM


Re: Picking and choosing
Flyer writes:
This is just not a factually true statement. IF the sciences all proved that the earth was millions of years old, there probably would not be the amount of discourse and discussion going on that we have right now.
Seriously, ALL those sciences have proved an old earth...long ago. The amazing technologies they have produced utterly and absolutely rely on it, and would not work without it. The amount of discourse here depends entirely on Biblical literalists who can't/won't/mayn't admit that a young earth is impossible. Fanatical religious views always tend to clash with reality
Flyer writes:
There are ways to interpret the evidence that can fit into both sides.
For reliable answers and the best estimation of the nature of the material world, only interpretation by the scientific method has proved useful. For an understanding of the spiritual world, no evidence is needed - only faith is required - so I don't see why you bother with evidence, except to prey upon people of faith AND ignorance.
Flyer writes:
You invoked astronomy, probably which is the least known of the sciences still at this point. Watch any science show on the planets or solar systems and you'll hear terminology such as "might have", "could have", "possibly", ect...
The shuttle couldn't launch with a young earth built into the calculations. Almost any discussion among scientists will necessarily involve qualifying terms like those you mentioned. Not being satisfied with the knowledge they've already achieved, or that Goddidit, they theorize answers to new questions. This process begins with might haves, could haves, etc.

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glowby
Member (Idle past 115 days)
Posts: 75
From: Fox River Grove, IL
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Message 98 of 100 (562812)
06-01-2010 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Iblis
05-31-2010 11:40 PM


Re: Picking and choosing
Iblis writes:
I'm not giving you crap, not only is it not my job but you did manage to mention the Flud thingie. But you may get more mileage out of your question in Bible Buffet (Run-off From Noah's Flood). I'm going to stick close here to the part that is at least vaguely relevant.
You're right, it was quite off topic. I'll try watch out better. The quote I quoted rather inspired me...
Iblis writes:
Does it really make any difference, to the message, ...?...?...navy drinking song...?...Jedi Knights...?...just a plastic toy?
I'd love to reply, but I'm afraid it would be a bit off topic...

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