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Author Topic:   What does 'The Gospel' mean to you - in 200 words or less
Dawn Bertot
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Message 31 of 93 (539357)
12-15-2009 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by Huntard
12-15-2009 10:52 AM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
Well, he was arrested, betrayed by his own people and put to death. I wouldn't call that a great succes....
Where did you learn these facts?

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hooah212002
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Message 32 of 93 (539358)
12-15-2009 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Dawn Bertot
12-15-2009 11:24 AM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
My guess? The bible, seeing as that is the ONLY source of information regarding jeesus.

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan

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Dawn Bertot
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Message 33 of 93 (539359)
12-15-2009 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by hooah212002
12-15-2009 11:36 AM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
My guess? The bible, seeing as that is the ONLY source of information regarding jeesus.
So then, if we proceed with he rest of the story, he ends up being a Savior of the world, correct? How does that equate to a failure?
EAM
Edited by EMA, : No reason given.

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Message 34 of 93 (539360)
12-15-2009 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by Dawn Bertot
12-15-2009 11:42 AM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
So then, if we proceed with he rest of the story, he ends up being a Savior of the world, correct? How does that equate to a failure?
Says who? Who says he's a savior? That's just the pedestal you put him on. He hasn't "saved" shit. he was a peace loving hippy, nothing more.

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan

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Dawn Bertot
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Message 35 of 93 (539361)
12-15-2009 11:51 AM
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12-15-2009 11:47 AM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
Says who? Who says he's a savior? That's just the pedestal you put him on. He hasn't "saved" shit. he was a peace loving hippy, nothing more.
Thats not what the ONLY source you refered to says
He hasn't "saved" shit.
You really shouldnt refer to yourself in this manner, but yes his saviorship even includes you.
EAM

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Huntard
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Message 36 of 93 (539367)
12-15-2009 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Dawn Bertot
12-15-2009 11:24 AM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
They're in your own book. Yes, it then twists it around and goes: "oh but he didn't really die!". I'm sorry, but I don't believe grand claims like that without evidence.

I hunt for the truth
I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
-Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead

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Dawn Bertot
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Message 37 of 93 (539369)
12-15-2009 12:39 PM
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12-15-2009 12:07 PM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
They're in your own book. Yes, it then twists it around and goes: "oh but he didn't really die!". I'm sorry, but I don't believe grand claims like that without evidence.
All a matter of perspective, Enough evidence to convince some but not others. I was just curious about why Brain, thought jesus was a failed preacher. It seemed a bit comical
EAM

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jaywill
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Message 38 of 93 (539373)
12-15-2009 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Huntard
12-15-2009 12:07 PM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
-Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
What third rate middle age punk rockers came up with this bit of wisdom inbetween their drugs and sleeping around with their groupies?

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Brian
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Message 39 of 93 (539374)
12-15-2009 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Dawn Bertot
12-15-2009 12:51 AM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
Could you provide me with an example of how Jesus was a failed preacher?
Well we are still waiting ont he arrival of The Messiah, it's a difficult one to miss.

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Brian
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Message 40 of 93 (539375)
12-15-2009 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Dawn Bertot
12-15-2009 11:42 AM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
The Bible also proves that Jesus could not have been The Messiah, strange that isn't it?
I don't think He saves the world in the NT either, I'd be interested to see where you get this idea from.
Edited by Brian, : added a q

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Huntard
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Message 41 of 93 (539377)
12-15-2009 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by jaywill
12-15-2009 1:23 PM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
jaywill writes:
What third rate middle age punk rockers came up with this bit of wisdom inbetween their drugs and sleeping around with their groupies?
First of all they're first rate. Second They're not punk rockers, they play hardrock. Third it says so right at the end. MOTORHEAD!.
Why, does it appeal to you?

I hunt for the truth
I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
-Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead

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jaywill
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Posts: 4519
From: VA USA
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Message 42 of 93 (539379)
12-15-2009 1:35 PM
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12-15-2009 1:32 PM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
erased
Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

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Huntard
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Message 43 of 93 (539382)
12-15-2009 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by jaywill
12-15-2009 1:35 PM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
jaywill writes:
Third Rate, Distortion Obsessed, Screaming recycled teens.
First rate!
Do people pay to go hear this stuff?
Oh yes. Seen 'em twice now.
Rock on!

I hunt for the truth
I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
-Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead

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Brian
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Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 44 of 93 (539384)
12-15-2009 1:49 PM


Now slagging of Lemmy really is blasphemy!

  
jaywill
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From: VA USA
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Message 45 of 93 (539387)
12-15-2009 2:28 PM
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12-15-2009 1:44 PM


Re: The Gospel\; An abomination
erased
Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.
Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

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