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Huntard Member (Idle past 2317 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Jumped Up Chimpanzee writes:
And how many scientific things are discussed in that sort of detail in any media outlet?
Why have the politicians and scientists riding on the bandwagon not deigned to provide the public with a straightforward account of exactly what they have discovered and how they discovered it? Why does anyone need to be secretive about the climate in the first place, unless there is an agenda to control or deceive the public?
Now now, they are only the mails of 1 research facility. The other research facilities that are also confirming it are also part of the conspiracy?
These people treat the public like complete idiots.
The public are complete idiots, in my experience anyway.
Unfortunately, most of the public are complete idiots.
See
Which is my other big gripe on this issue.
Oh yes, very much so.
Most people prattle on about how eco-friendly they are when they haven't got a clue.
Yep. My favorite way of depicting this was in a South park epsiode, where the US was threatened by a large cloud of "smug" because of all the smuggness of the people driving hybrid cars and yapping about how good they were for the environment.
I swear I heard someone say this on TV the other day when they were asked what they were doing to be eco-friendly. She said (very smugly):
Oh South Park, always spot on.
"I help the environment by driving a small car." The stupid bird-brain. You don't "help" the environment by driving ANY car! A small car damages the environment, only slightly less so than a larger car. There isn't some magic cut-off point where cars above a certain size are all damaging the environment while cars below that size actually help the environment. Yet it's clear most people seem to have been brain-washed into thinking that's the case.
YEs, like you said, people are complete idiots.
On another TV show an equally smug couple proclaimed how they'd made sure their (massive) new house was eco-friendly by installing low-energy lightbulbs. Fortunately, the presenter had the sense to point out that they had installed 80 (eighty) of these light bulbs in the ceiling of their living room alone!
Helping the environment one lightbulb at a time! That's a nother polar bear saved.
To summarise, please could we have proper facts and evidence presented to the public on this issue.
I agree. I think this should be done on much more scientific issues.
If the facts and methods were out in the open, there wouldn't be all this controversy would there?
Of course there would *points to creationism*. But at least they'd be seen as just as cuckoo by the "normal" people. I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2317 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
I agree with your post, so I will keep my comments to this part:
Jumped Up Chimpanzee writes:
It's better then the simpsons, The humour is much "harder". Sometimes even very politically incorrect (I remmeber an episode one or two weeks after Steve Irwin died, which featured a Steve Irwin with a stingray sticking out of his chest. There was outrage, so, what does South park do, in the very next episode, they throw in some more comments on Steve Irwin " in a stingray tank", if I recall correctly.). Anyway, I think it's great, especially when it touches on "current affairs". Never seen South Park. Any good? Is it a bit like The Simpsons? Never seen that either (honest). All episodes can be viewed here for free (completely legal too) Viewing tip: Trapped in the closet (episode 12 of season 9 (about scientology)) I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2317 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Link here Check out his other videos on climate change as well. Edited by Huntard, : Added link I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead |
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2317 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
These two quotes that seem to pop up the most:
I've just completed Mike's nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's t hide the decline And
The fact is we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't.
Anyone care to shoot these down? One other I'll shoot down myself:
Ed Cook to Keith Briffa writes:
Hmm, pretty damnig, but wait that's not the end of it!
We both know the probable flaws in Mike's recon, particualrly as it relates to the tropical stuff. Ed Cook to Keith Briffa continued writes:
Whoopsie! the only way to deal with this whole issue is to show in a detailed study that his estimates are clearly deficient.... I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2317 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Otto Tellick writes:
Indeed, I provided the same video in my Message 112. I even embedded the video in my message. His other videos on cliamte change are also very nice. I found this link very early in my own perusal of viral web content -- I expect I'm not the first in this thread to provide it, but here it is again, just in case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nnVQ2fROOg I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2317 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
A Finnish documentary about "climategate" (Yes, with subs ):
Part one:
Part two:
Part three: I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2317 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Mr Jack writes:
Perhaps "Biased guys say biased things" was a better title, I hadn't watched it yet when I posted that, my apologies.
"Documentary"? Is that any documentary in there? Or does it continue in the same hack job vein all the way through? (I didn't watch it all).
Pretty much, yes. It's not very objective, and brings up the same stupid shit every other "climate doubter" does. Even the same e-mails are mentioned that are refuted in the earlier video I posted. Well, at least you can't say I'm not "fair and balanced" . I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2317 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
"Those activists are just part of the same coverup and want to make us poor like Africa!"
I wonder how long till Beck comes out with something like that.
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