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Author Topic:   Species/Kinds (for Peg...and others)
DrJones*
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Message 171 of 425 (540634)
12-27-2009 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 168 by Peg
12-26-2009 11:51 PM


Why can a small bird such as a parrot learn to speak,
The parrot isn't "learning to speak" it's learning to imitate sounds.
but an ape who has many of the physical characteristics needed for speech such as lips, tongue, vocal cords, cannot learn to speak?
Check out Koko, who has learned to communicate through sign language.
and more recently the DNA of chimpanzees and orangutans among other monkeys has shown that their genetic makeup is not as similar as was once thought. Apparently there are large differences in their DNA compared to ours.
Source?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 179 of 425 (540643)
12-27-2009 2:13 AM
Reply to: Message 175 by Peg
12-27-2009 12:40 AM


So:
...large differences in their DNA compared to ours.
amounts to a 5% difference. That ain't that large.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 259 of 425 (541222)
01-01-2010 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by ICANT
01-01-2010 3:28 PM


Re: Kind (Wolves)
It makes no differece what male and female of a kind you breed their offspring will be the same kind.
So what kind are the fertile offspring of a Dog/Wolf pairing?
Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 264 of 425 (541228)
01-01-2010 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by ICANT
01-01-2010 4:15 PM


Re: Kinds
So new kinds can be created, ergo the creationist position of "variation within kinds only" is proven false.
Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 274 of 425 (541240)
01-01-2010 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 273 by ICANT
01-01-2010 5:33 PM


Re: Kinds
But in all my years I have never seen one kind produce another kind. I can find no evidence for such ever taking place.
May I suggest you go back and read your own posts where you admit that a wolf-dog hybrid would be neither wolf kind nor dog kind and would logically therefore be a new kind.
This post for example: Message 267
Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 282 of 425 (541250)
01-01-2010 7:53 PM
Reply to: Message 277 by ICANT
01-01-2010 6:26 PM


Re: Kinds
Where in any of my posts did I say that if you cross a wolf and a dog you would not get a hybrid?
nowhere, but you did say:
But in all my years I have never seen one kind produce another kind. I can find no evidence for such ever taking place.
So of a wolf-dog which according to you is neither of the wolf nor dog kinds is an example of the creation of a new kind, falisifing the above quote.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 290 of 425 (541263)
01-01-2010 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by ICANT
01-01-2010 8:44 PM


Re: Kind
IS IT A NEW KIND? NO
Why not? if it is no longer of the wolf kind and no longer of the dog kind then it must be of the wolf-dog kind

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Joined: 08-19-2004
Member Rating: 6.8


Message 351 of 425 (541896)
01-06-2010 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 350 by ICANT
01-06-2010 3:56 PM


Re: Kind
If all creatures was created by one designer wouldn't He use the same designs where possible in different creatures.
Why would he? after all this mythical designer of yours allegedly has unlimited knowledge and power, why would he repeat himself except out of laziness?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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