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Author Topic:   Landmark gay marriage trial starts today in California
Stile
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Message 2 of 759 (542724)
01-12-2010 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by subbie
01-11-2010 2:32 PM


You Tube
Very interesting.

Lots of questions about this:

The trial is public, yes? That is, if I lived in the area and had the free time, I could walk into the court room and listen in on the proceedings, right?

"Important" cases have been televised before, right? I think the OJ trial was televised? Have others been televised as well?

Is the precedent for this, basically, that "important" cases get more access to public venues? That is, the Supreme Court is basically just deciding how important this case is when determining if it is allowed on You Tube (or TV) or not? Or are there other considerations?


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Message 77 of 759 (572581)
08-06-2010 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Taz
08-06-2010 4:14 PM


Yup
Taz writes:

in my book christianity DOES NOT have the moral high ground.

I think that's been true since the OT was first penned...


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Message 123 of 759 (574710)
08-17-2010 12:02 PM
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08-16-2010 10:27 PM


Re: First step in the appeal process
Um... perhaps you can inform me a bit more because I'm legally stupid. Wait... that didn't come out right. I'm stupid when it comes to legal terms and phrasing...

Yeah, anyway:

This is my stance:
-I don't think this roller-coaster ride is going to end until it goes to the Supreme Court
-I think the Supreme Court is going to decide in favour of equal rights for everyone (pro-gay-rights or whatever).
-Therefore, I want this gay-rights issue to go to the supreme court as soon as possible

For me, then... is this granted-appeal a good thing? Is this one-more-step getting it closer to the supreme court?
Or is it likely I'm going to have to wait longer... likely years?


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Message 372 of 759 (701964)
06-28-2013 12:28 PM
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06-28-2013 12:18 PM


Re: Supreme Court punts
Catholic Scientist writes:

What were those citizens saying were the reasons that they wanted to challenge the removal of Prop 8?

I think it was an older lady... in her 80's or something.

She apparently got a message from the government saying that her marriage wasn't legally recognized, so she wasn't able to claim the marriage-benefits that she did, and now owed the government something like $383,000.

She didn't think it was fair to pay that, and went to court.

...I think.

(Whoops, wrong case, this was DOMA).
And I also got confused about which side of the argument you were talking about.
On to my next "opportunity"!!

People who call mistakes "opportunities" have never worked with their hands...

Edited by Stile, : ...cutting yourself while attempting to cut wood is not an opportunity to use bandages.


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Message 633 of 759 (717019)
01-23-2014 11:03 AM


VA AG - BAM!!
New Virginia Attorney General Drops Defense of Gay Marriage Ban

I think he's newly in power for about a month or so?

A pretty powerful thing to say:

quote:
“While Virginia has a storied place in the founding of our nation and has contributed to the development of our democracy, it has also been on the wrong side of court cases involving school desegregation, interracial marriage, and state-supported single-sex education,” Mr. Kelly said. He said Mr. Herring planned to say at a news conference Thursday morning, “It’s time for Virginia to be on the right side of the law, and the right side of history.”

I hope it sticks...


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Message 759 of 759 (769213)
09-17-2015 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 757 by saab93f
09-17-2015 7:11 AM


The Final Scapegoat
saab93f writes:

Are peeps telling that Jill and Jack, though they love each other and want to create a family together, would decide against it because somewhere else Jack and John can decide alike?

Yes, that's all it is.
Pathetic, really.

They are invoking the last, and greatest, scapegoat.

"It's not me condemning you, it's God!"
"I don't hate you at all, it's just that God doesn't appreciate this sort of thing."
"These are not the punishments I want you to endure, they are what God is commanding us to do!"

"I am not responsible for what I do, I am only following God Himself."

A nice, still-currently-mostly socially acceptable, and easy way to turn feelings of contempt, jealousy and their own life's regrets into hurting others for "a good cause."

Any child can still identify the unnecessary and unwarranted pain that is being inflicted upon gays and lesbians from this whole pile of poop.
It's obvious and glaring and can only be pushed aside by years of uncaring and unloving living.


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