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Theodoric
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Message 127 of 759 (574896)
08-18-2010 10:04 AM
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08-18-2010 4:51 AM


Spam??
Isn't this spam?
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Message 158 of 759 (577185)
08-27-2010 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by Taz
08-27-2010 9:25 AM


Errors on a couple of counts
I would have been much happier back in school to have learned that after the nazis surrendered every person who had ever had a nazi uniform on was put in concentration camps and gassed to death... or at least be fed to their own dogs.

First of all the winning powers protected a lot of nazis and nazis sympathizers. It had nothing to do with political correctness. It had to do with whether they would be useful in the coming cold war. Also, a lot of rank and file Germans wore uniforms during the war. Do you propose that we act just like the nazi's and kill them all with no due process? I thought the war was partially to stop such behaviors.

Because of our politically correct world, that son of a bitch pol pot never faced any real trial or consequence.

Pol Pot not getting justice also had nothing to do with PC. Pol Pot was never caught. The Thai and Chinese governments gave him sanctuary but this was not a PC action, this was a government making a cold calculated decision that he was of use to them. In the end his own group the Khmer Rouge held him under arrest and were making moves to turn him over to an international tribunal.
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On the night of April 15, 1998, the Voice of America, of which Pol Pot was a devoted listener, announced that the Khmer Rouge had agreed to turn him over to an international tribunal. According to his wife, he died in his bed later in the night while waiting to be moved to another location. Ta Mok claimed that his death was due to heart failure.[28] Despite government requests to inspect the body, it was cremated a few days later at Anlong Veng in the Khmer Rouge zone, raising strong suspicions that he committed suicide or was poisoned

And because of our politically correct world, genocidal campaigns are allowed to be rampant for months before anyone lifted a finger to stop them. And even then, most of those who participated in the mass rape, torture, and murder never faced any real consequence. Nowadays, it seems like it's better to be the bad guys because the good guys are too busy trying to be politically correct to get anything done against the bad guys.

Show us how this is because of "political correctness".


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Theodoric
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Message 164 of 759 (577262)
08-27-2010 7:44 PM
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08-27-2010 7:07 PM


Re: Errors on a couple of counts
Everything you said there is political correctness.

Not killing everyone that war a Nazi uniform is political correctness? Did you not read that Pol Pot was being turned over for an international tribunal? So your dogma outweighs the facts? Are you a creationist?

They simply don't want to offend such and such group, so they didn't try harder to pursue the issue.

Who is they? What groups did "they" not want to offend?


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Theodoric
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Message 167 of 759 (577301)
08-28-2010 12:13 AM
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08-28-2010 12:07 AM


Re: Errors on a couple of counts
So your attributing this all to "political correctness' is just a bunch of bullshit?

appreciate your defending these evil people

Screw you. How am I defending them? I am providing evidence that you claim that there is some sort of political correctness run amok is a bunch of BS. I am not defending anyone.

Do you always personally attack people that disagree with you or show that your argument is BS?


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Theodoric
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Message 172 of 759 (577400)
08-28-2010 2:51 PM
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08-28-2010 12:15 PM


Re: Errors on a couple of counts
Again no argument or evidence to defend your political correctnes bull. Just continued personal attacks.

By seeing nothing wrong with the current system of dealing with these genocidal maniacs. The fact that you think it's ok to let these guys live on for years and years until they begin to die of old age before any real trial is set bothers me.

Do not dare to presume what I think. Show me how I have defended the current system. Show where I think it is ok for them to go unpunished. All I have done is question your assertion for "political correctness".

It literally takes half a life time for these cases to go to trial, and you see absolutely nothing wrong with this system? How is this not defending those bastards?

Again show where I have stated this.

You truly think every person in a NAzi uniform should have been executed?

Please expalin this 'political correctness' you keep harping about. You don't even know who the "they" of your accusations is.


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Message 174 of 759 (577410)
08-28-2010 5:50 PM
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08-28-2010 3:01 PM


Re: Errors on a couple of counts
you've continually defended the system.

Never have. I think you make very valid points about the black and latino communities. My issue is your overarching claim that some sort of "political correctness" is responsible for certain things. You are the one that pulled a godwin and brought out Nazi's. You are the one that brought up Pol Pot. You misrepresented both issues and were blatantly wrong.

Am I bad because I expect you to defend your arguments. All I have gotten back since is personal attacks.


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Message 214 of 759 (639819)
11-04-2011 9:12 AM
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11-04-2011 1:02 AM


Are you really going to argue that everybody eats rice just as often as asian people?

Do you have any idea how often hispanic people eat rice? When I was a kid growing up we had it at least 5 days a week. I still eat rice 3-4 times a week. I am not asian.


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Theodoric
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Message 235 of 759 (652328)
02-13-2012 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 234 by Artemis Entreri
02-13-2012 11:40 AM


Slander, libel
anytime you can slander the right or the republicans

Really really if you are going to make a lame argument could you at least know what the words mean.

I suggest you take a quick look at the words slander and libel. No links. Look them up yourself.


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Theodoric
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Message 238 of 759 (652430)
02-13-2012 5:38 PM
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02-13-2012 5:27 PM


Still waiting
Subbie and I are waiting for you to tell us where the slander(read libel) is.

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Theodoric
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Message 242 of 759 (652468)
02-13-2012 8:16 PM
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02-13-2012 6:51 PM


Re: Still waiting
Better use smaller words.

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Theodoric
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Message 248 of 759 (652507)
02-14-2012 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 237 by Artemis Entreri
02-13-2012 5:27 PM


I can only give advice
it's time to get into semantics.

Your ignorance is showing. My argument was not an argument of semantics. I provided a link this time as you seem incapable of researching the meaning of words itself.

You plain and simply used the wrong word. It is an argument of correct usage of vocabulary. Now if what someone wrote on this forum could in some way be slander, then you would be correct and we would be having an argument about semantics. But what is written here could never be slander it could only be libel.
Then again you are incapable of finding any evidence of libel so the point is moot. See definition two in the link.

Your arguments would be more respected and less laughable if you would use correct vocabulary. If you are not sure of the meaning of the word it takes a quick search to find the meanings.

If you use Firefox there is a search engine toolbar that you can add a dictionary too. I use it a lot when I post here to make sure that the words I use have the actual meaning I think they do. The only problem with ignorance is when you do not want to rectify the ignorance or worse have no interest in rectifying it.


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Theodoric
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Message 249 of 759 (652508)
02-14-2012 10:20 AM
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02-14-2012 8:20 AM


So in other words women should never have been given the right to vote and we should have never outlawed slavery? You do understand the purpose of the courts and the concept of the tyranny of the majority don't you?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 251 of 759 (652511)
02-14-2012 10:29 AM
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02-14-2012 8:20 AM


when the overwhelming majority still make it clear by their votes that they hate gay people.

Simply a lie. Please show an overwhelming vote against gay marriage.

Here are some stats on the subject



Link to original source.

ABE

Taz writes:

Political correctness is covering your eyes from reality.


What is covering your eyes from reality?

Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.


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Theodoric
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Message 254 of 759 (652515)
02-14-2012 10:51 AM
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02-14-2012 10:44 AM


Not exactly a lie, but perhaps misleading.

yes it is. Unless there is a different meaning of overwhelming that I don't know about.

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Theodoric
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Message 264 of 759 (652805)
02-16-2012 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 263 by Taz
02-16-2012 12:48 AM


I don't care if statistics say those who voted to kick you out of their classrooms are not overwhelming.

Thank you for admitting you characterized the situation incorrectly.

I find it disturbing that you guys don't find it disturbing that we have yet to find a state with the majority voting for equal rights.

Oh great prognosticator it must be great o know what everyone else thinks and feels.

I also find it disturbing that most people don't see this beyond gay marriage. Did black people boycott the bus company just for a damn seat? Did they protest just for a damn drinking fountain? No, that's stupid. The issue goes beyond any one particular issue.

No shit. Have you heard of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"? Marriage is on battle in the is Civil rights war.

but you guys keep falling back to your liberal commie politically correct bullshit about this issue.

WTF? What more are you expecting from us? Liberal, commie?? Really?


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