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Author Topic:   Landmark gay marriage trial starts today in California
xongsmith
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Message 49 of 759 (572370)
08-05-2010 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Hyroglyphx
08-05-2010 10:38 AM


Hyro says:
No, completely different. If you are a secular practioner, you have a legal obligation to marry everyone who requests it and pays for the services. But you can't walk in to a church and demand that they put their beliefs on hold, regardless of how reprehensible you may find it to be.

I guess my problem is the church aspect of marriage. I didn't "use" a church, but I can see where some people might want to do so. I guess my problem is that if you want to get married under such'n'such a church, and that church says "you cant", you should be OUT OF THAT CHURCH SO FAST EVEN LIGHT WOULDNT KNOW.

it's a fault of the grip around the particular field of belief you apparently have been roped into. please - give up the church that wont allow you to be who you are.


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xongsmith
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Message 337 of 759 (661811)
05-10-2012 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 336 by NoNukes
05-10-2012 9:12 AM


Re: North Carolina Amendment 1
NoNukes asks:
Just how many southern states do you think there are anyway?

Apparently at least 41 now.


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Message 339 of 759 (661823)
05-10-2012 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 338 by hooah212002
05-10-2012 2:08 PM


Re: North Carolina Amendment 1
Hooah writes:
Now, reply again saying how WI also has anti-gay marriage laws on the books.

Wisconsin is one of the 41 southern states, Hooah.


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xongsmith
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Message 363 of 759 (701856)
06-27-2013 12:40 AM
Reply to: Message 357 by 1.61803
06-26-2013 2:59 PM


Re: Supreme Court punts
1.6180339 writes:

I believe a comedian said (i forget his name)said something to the effect,
"I say let em get married and be miserable as the rest of us."

And, again, I am sure that the singular professional business sector most ecstatic about all of this would be

..................the Divorce Lawyers.

Edited by xongsmith, : Mostest of the mostest


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Message 629 of 759 (704722)
08-14-2013 11:08 PM
Reply to: Message 628 by Rahvin
08-14-2013 5:55 PM


Re: Attempt went far afield...
Rahvin puts it succinctly:

Indeed - not every change is an improvement, but every improvement is a change. If we are afraid to do differently from those who came before us, we condemn ourselves to never do better.

This of course also resonates with the old adage that those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it - alas infamously recalled in the wrong way by Reverend Jim Jones. Now, that was different - but most definitely NOT an improvement.


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