Landmark gay marriage trial starts today in California

Everything you said there is political correctness. They simply don't want to offend such and such group, so they didn't try harder to pursue the issue.

I didn't say he didn't get turned over. But the process took years and years and years. By the time they were willing to put him on trial, he was already a dying old man. Hell if I know. Simply put, it takes years and years and years for these not-so high profile genocidal cases to go to trial. I'm sure those victims who suffered under these genocidal campaigs appreciate your defending these evil people and the very very slow and politically correct international process of dealing these things.Edit.Anyway, the above is off topic. I can understand that even though the latino and black communities are showing blatant bigotry you guys simply don't want to say it out of political correctness. It's understandable. It's also understandable that you guys are avoiding the 70-80% figure. It's completely understandable. You guys simply don't want to stir things up. Be all politically correct all you want.For me, it's different. When 70-80% of a community shows bigotry, there's something wrong. I'm not going to attempt to sugar coat it.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

You conveniently left out the 70-80% figure from the latino and black communities. What happened to the old nem jug? You're all... politically correct nowadays.

By seeing nothing wrong with the current system of dealing with these genocidal maniacs. The fact that you think it's ok to let these guys live on for years and years until they begin to die of old age before any real trial is set bothers me. It literally takes half a life time for these cases to go to trial, and you see absolutely nothing wrong with this system? How is this not defending those bastards?

I don't know. Gravity works the same for everything, whether it's burrito or fried chicken.

There are ways one can state something and not have to say it out outright. From our discussion through many posts now, you've continually defended the system.But what I find more interesting is that you are all hung up on the off-topic bit of my outrageous statements. I just find it funny that you have steered clear of the latino and black communities issue and instead just pick on the off-topic bit. Is it because you know I'm right about the bullshitness of the latino and black communities and that you're too politically correct to say anything about it?I've already met several people who have taken the cop-out attitude to avoid the issue by saying we have to look at the individuals. Well, if 70-80% of the community at large has the same attitude about something, I think it's fairly safe to say that the community has that attitude.

To be fair, I think the liberal commie side is just as annoying as the conservatives on this front by being too politically correct.I was attending a debate at a nearby university. The discussion was about general statements and stereotypes. At one point, a question was posed what would make a general statement ok to make. Someone said "asian people tend to eat rice".Of course this got all the liberal commies all riled up. They called it racist and that you shouldn't make a statement like that.Let me name a few reasons why liberals are starting to bother the hell out of me with their political correctness.(1) By hushing everyone who makes a statement like that, it suggests there's something wrong with the act of eating rice. It's like not mentioning directly that someone is retarded because we perceive that there's something wrong with a person who was born mentally retarded.(2) It is a fact that east asian people really do tend to eat rice just like we tend to eat our hamburgers and hotdogs. There's nothing wrong with any of these acts.(3) To collectively hushing someone for making such an opinion is just wrong. This political correctness is getting ridiculous.The point I'm trying to make is even if children raised by gay couples tend to become gay, it would still not be reason to stop gay people from raising children. There's nothing wrong with being gay. In fact, I would argue that if we ever find a way to change a person's sexual orientation (chemically or genetically or whatever), we should change half our population from straight to gay. We already got enough people as is. We don't need red necks to keep breeding like that. Anyone here seen that tv show with that christian family with 18 kids?

Are you really going to argue that everybody eats rice just as often as asian people? I know, I listened to the same program. Again, are you seriously going to argue that western people eat rice just as often as east asian people?How many times a day do you eat rice? So... let me get this straight. Since the bigots hold the power, we should cave into their demand and recognize that there is something wrong with being gay?This is exactly the kind of counter productive stance in the liberal camp that I've been talking about for years. There's nothing wrong with the act of eating rice in one's daily diet. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being gay even if it was brought upon by having 2 gay parents.Anymore political correctness you'd like to preach?

And ergo you still don't understand their culture. Rice isn't just another dish or food. It is consumed 3 times a day 7 days a week for the typical Asian family. This concept is poorly understood here because we have no such one-food-fits-all thing in our culture. Even their noodles are made from rice. Every Asian family I know has a pot of steaming hot rice ready to go all the time.editRegarding gay marriage, I've no good thing to say about the current situation. It is absolutely a shame that we need to rely on court ruling to uphold equal rights instead of a majority vote. Where the fuck is the so-called silent majority that the liberal christians have been telling me about? Do you guys still deny that religion causes people to hate? I have reality to back me up. Every major church is fighting equal rights as we speak. Even some pro-gay rights pastors I've met don't want gay marriage to happen.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

I was trying to point out that the liberal commie crowd while being politically correct is inadvertently being offensive to some people.Some of the most liberal people I know still avoid the word gay or the mention of someone being gay like if its a bad thing. Just like thinking there's something wrong with eating rice.

Fine, then lets talk about gay marriage. It seems to me like the liberal commie crowd is perfectly happy with having gay marriage legalized through the courts when the overwhelming majority still make it clear by their votes that they hate gay people. The liberal commie crowd keeps telling me there is the silent majority kind hearted Christian group out there. Yet I've never seen any evidence of this.Political correctness is covering your eyes from reality.

Here's why I said overwhelming majority.Suppose you go to a new school where the kids in each classroom get to vote whether to keep you in their classroom or kick you out.Each classroom has 100 kids.You go to room A and they hold a vote. 40% vote to let you stay, 45% vote to kick you out, and the rest don't care either way so they'll go with whatever the majority decide.You go to room B and they hold a vote. 42% vote to let you stay, 50% vote to kick you out, and the rest don't care enough to vote and will go with whatever the majority decide.Comparative results in classrooms C, D, E, F, G. Finally, you get to classroom H and the teacher there decides to use her executive power and let you stay.I don't care if statistics say those who voted to kick you out of their classrooms are not overwhelming. After the exact same result over and over with a significant number of people don't care what happens to you, that's as good as the overwhelming majority.I find it disturbing that you guys don't find it disturbing that we have yet to find a state with the majority voting for equal rights.I also find it disturbing that most people don't see this beyond gay marriage. Did black people boycott the bus company just for a damn seat? Did they protest just for a damn drinking fountain? No, that's stupid. The issue goes beyond any one particular issue.I've explained this many times before, but you guys keep falling back to your liberal commie politically correct bullshit about this issue. So no point in explaining it again. You guys are the reason why gay rights movement is slowed down to a crawl. You're too busy trying to be politically correct to see reality as it is.

All of the mentioned rights gained are useless if the societal attitude remains the same. The fact that a political candidate can gain vast amounts of support by essentially saying he hates fags and wants them back in the closet is proof enough that almost nothing has changed.

I don't agree with this. The gay rights movement has been in existence for as long as anyone can remember. And it's still politically correct to say gays be gone.I am reminded of a documentary I saw a couple years ago. It was about gay rights in Europe. They interviewed a holocaust survivor who lost his partner in a death camp. He said that after the war, people of every minority group slowly but surely gained their rights. And then he broke down in tears and said but somehow the homosexuals got left behind.Remember that in this particular case the bigots got god on their side. Nothing will change until either god changes his mind or we kill him off.Remember the phrase segregation before, segregation now, segregation forever? I'm paraphrasing here. Remember how quickly it became NOT OK to say something like that?This is the 21st century. Just a month ago, republican candidates got huge rounds of applauds for saying they want the gheys to go back into the closet.You guys can fantasize all you want. Reality isn't as pretty as you make it out to be.

Um, look up Tyra Hunter.