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hooah212002
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Message 333 of 759 (661775)
05-09-2012 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 332 by NoNukes
05-09-2012 9:04 PM


Re: North Carolina Amendment 1
You seem to have taken my comments personally, as if my slander of southern states includes yourself or that i was including every single person in those states. I was not.
NC did already have a ban on gay marriage. I will provide a link when I get home. Also, I was merely pointing out that a major of the regressive legislation that comes to light typically comes from southern states or representatives of southern states. They are considered red states for a reason. Nowhere did i say that northern states never do this. I was wrong to say abstinence only in reference to state mandated education as you are correct that no states have abstinence only education.
If you would like to argue that the south is the progressive part of the nation, I'm all ears for that argument. But I don't think "see, other states do it too" is a good start.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 335 of 759 (661791)
05-10-2012 8:11 AM
Reply to: Message 334 by NoNukes
05-09-2012 11:01 PM


Re: North Carolina Amendment 1
Your statement is simply wrong. There is nothing distinctly southern about homophobic backwardness.
Is that what I said? I remember correcting you on this once already just a couple messages ago.
NoNukes writes:
Your statement was that NC enacted a anti-marriage amendment when they already had one.
quote:
North Carolina voted Tuesday to outlaw same-sex marriage, which was already prohibited in the state.
Sauce
quote:
The vote makes North Carolina the 30th state to adopt a ban on gay marriage. While North Carolina law already bans same-sex marriage, the amendment means civil unions and potentially other types of domestic partnerships will no longer be recognized legally by the state.
(bolding mine)
Sauce
Was there some particular word I used that confused the dialogue?
Red states means that the state is reliably Republican. Period.
There's a good pun there.....if only I were a better comedian. Yes, I am aware of this. I guess being a "red state" has certain implications to me as a progressive. Ya know, being regressive and all that.
And I'm pointing out that such is not the case. Wisconsin's amendment did not come from the south. It was enacted by a 60 percent vote of Wisconsin residents, which is about the same as the percentage of North Carolina residents who voted for a very similar amendment.
Is there a particular reason you keep mentioning Wisconsin? Do you think you are making your case (whatever it may be) by saying "see, Wisconsin has fucked up legislation and backwards thinking cow tippers too"? Or do you think I personally hold some special place in my heart for this state (hint: I don't. I fucking hate Wisconsin)?
The United States contains a huge number of regressive, backwards, homophobic, xenophobic, racists.
Yes, and the majority of them are in the south. That is all I was getting at.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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hooah212002
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Message 338 of 759 (661816)
05-10-2012 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 336 by NoNukes
05-10-2012 9:12 AM


Re: North Carolina Amendment 1
What you said was that NC enacted an anti-gay marriage amendment when they already had one. Here is your exact, and incorrect wording with my emphasis added:
You are correct. I didn't realize I had typed "constitutional amendment" nor did I intend to, as I was referring to the law they had on the books. I figured as much was clear in my followup comments. So be it.
I will quote what I said a while ago:
If the only criterion for being labeled as backwards was a constitutional amendment against homosexual unions, I wouldn't have said what I did
to indicate that, while being the topic of this thread, gay marriage was only (barely) part of what I was talking about, yet you keep harping on that one subject. Furthermore, I was simply making an off the cuff remark about inbred rednecks in the south who hate niggers, fags, jews and all things progressive/liberal. You should note that all along, I have neither stated that the north doesn't have it's share of the same or that the south is 100% replete of them, but instead, I have said (over and fucking over) that a majority of the backwards shit is in the south.
Now, reply again saying how WI also has anti-gay marriage laws on the books. I'm done and this is off topic (well, I am. You keep drawing it back to be solely a discussion about gay marriage).

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 447 of 759 (702676)
07-10-2013 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 446 by Faith
07-10-2013 6:24 PM


No. Those words I just deleted would make me not much further up the chain than you. I won't sink to your putrid level.
You are a misguided person and could do well with some humanity classes.
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.
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"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 451 of 759 (702684)
07-10-2013 7:45 PM
Reply to: Message 446 by Faith
07-10-2013 6:24 PM


I have no idea what you might do about the insurance and the taxes and I think that's rather a self-centered conceit that you want to share them as if you were a normal married couple.
Normal? Really? What is normal?
I believe children need a stable traditional family with heterosexual parents so I don't think gays should have children at all.
What about single parent families?
I also understand that there is evidence children raised by gays tend to be depressed, which makes sense to me.
I also believe there is evidence that only hetero couples can produce gay children. Gay children are ONLY the result of hetero unions. Gay couples do not produce gay children.
Even if the whole society says it's OK a child is going to know there's something wrong with the situation.
No, that is a lie. Something you made up.
And have to suppress such feelings too because supposedly it's just another normal alternative
There's that word again. "Normal". What is normal? Who decides what normal is?
I just don't think it's right to stack the deck psychologically against what has always been considered normal family life.
Could you tell us more about how "normal" families have faired and why you feel they do a better job?
Children should be given a chance at a normal life as long as there is a choice in the matter.
What is normal?

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 454 of 759 (702693)
07-10-2013 9:18 PM
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07-10-2013 9:05 PM


Well, yea, I could see that. I took her saying the "whole society" as in everyone and they wouldn't encounter bigots. As in: the kids would just know that it's wrong even if no one ever tells them it is wrong.
It's all hyperbole and make believe anyways because we won't ive to see the day where someone's sexual orientation matters to anyone. That is why I said it was a lie and something she made up.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 462 of 759 (702702)
07-10-2013 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 458 by Faith
07-10-2013 10:07 PM


Re: Pointy Sticks
Are both parties consenting adults, legally able to even give consent?
Is pedophilia
That should answer your question, then, since pedophilia has nothing to do with gay marriage and is not concerning consenting adults.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 463 of 759 (702703)
07-10-2013 11:19 PM
Reply to: Message 461 by yenmor
07-10-2013 11:16 PM


Do you dispute the researchers' findings?
Faith disputes reality that is contrary to her beloved bible, so of course she disputes findings that are contrary to her bigotry.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 491 of 759 (702734)
07-11-2013 7:25 AM
Reply to: Message 468 by Faith
07-11-2013 2:17 AM


Re: Pointy Sticks
You are a vile human being. Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any more disgusting, you prove me wrong.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 492 of 759 (702735)
07-11-2013 7:31 AM
Reply to: Message 472 by Faith
07-11-2013 2:22 AM


Re: Pointy Sticks
Are both parties consenting adults, legally able to even give consent?
Is pedophilia
That should answer your question, then, since pedophilia has nothing to do with gay marriage and is not concerning consenting adults.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 524 of 759 (702795)
07-11-2013 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 504 by Faith
07-11-2013 11:07 AM


Re: Faith once again simply lies and misrepresents what has been said.
Do you know the definition of pedophilia? Does it involve two consenting adults?

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 525 of 759 (702796)
07-11-2013 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 500 by Faith
07-11-2013 10:56 AM


Re: Pointy Sticks
Do you know the definition of pedophilia? Does it involve two consenting adults?

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 526 of 759 (702798)
07-11-2013 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 496 by Faith
07-11-2013 10:47 AM


Re: Pointy Sticks
Do you know the definition of pedophilia? Does it involve two consenting adults?

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 529 of 759 (702801)
07-11-2013 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 527 by Faith
07-11-2013 12:22 PM


Re: Faith once again simply lies and misrepresents what has been said.
WHo has used that term? You have. You have placed ALL sexual orientations in the same category when they are clearly not. The only person here using it in a weasely fashion is Faith. You are again showing your true lying, hateful nature.
Again: Do you know the definition of pedophilia? Does it involve two consenting adults?

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 531 of 759 (702808)
07-11-2013 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 530 by vimesey
07-11-2013 12:27 PM


Re: Pointy Sticks
If you take that line, then I'm guessing you'll lose a good proportion of what little audience you have).
Doubtful. Her audience gets married at 14, sleeps in separate beds for their whole lives, the woman does what the man says for fear of getting slapped or beaten, they only "know" each other for the sole purpose of placing a baby in her wretched fallen womb, woman cooks and cleans and the man goes to work. Mommy does ALL the child rearing and makes the kid fear getting beat by dad.
Leave it to Beaver is viewed as a documentary by them.
So yea, her audience doesn't care about not getting glorious blowjobs.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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