Where did the matter and energy come from?

Larni writes:Well, it asserts the state of a region of space for creation ex nilo but not the why of it.

Sasuke writes:When blackholes have feed enough energy into this stored chamber(infinately dense state) the energy has no option but to expand the space it's stored in and when this happens whiteholes are born.

Buzsaw writes: Hi Sasuki. If that be the case it would seem that conventional science must revise the whole concept of space and BB expansion as it stands.

Buzsaw writes:The Buzsaw model of space is that it is static unbounded area in which all forces, energy and matter exist.

Buzsaw writes: The multiverse model implies an outside of our universe and space between our universe and other universes.

Buzsaw writes: As well, there still remains the question of the origin of the multiverse, it's before and outside of. It appears that all this does is raise additional questions relative to origins.

onfire writes:Evidence is the only thing that can lead to an assumtion. Scientific research is due largely to provisional explanations which are constructed by, as you said, speculation, but such hypotheses must be framed in relation to previously ascertained facts and in accordance with the principles of the particular science.

onfire writes:So it is not a blind assumtion to think things are random, it is "framed in relation to previously ascertained facts."

onfire writes:Assuming something is due to god would first require evidence for god. There must be some previously ascertained fact that lead to this assumtion. But there isn't, obviously, because it is a belief. So it IS a blind assumtion, where as assuming randomness (or natural means) is not because, again, it is "framed in relation to previously ascertained facts."

cs writes:No. They're both stationary to the Earth. Neither one is falling.

CS writes:No, assume they're the same mass.The one above your head can be used to do work, say drop it to drive a nail, but the one laying on the ground can't do that.

Rahvin in another thread said writes:Incorrect. If your concept were accurate, it would be impossible to use a waterfal to perform work, as both the water at the higher and lower elevations are "falling towards the Earth."The ability to perform work is all about differences in energy states. Work is performed when a higher energy state is moved to a lower energy state; when entropy is increased.When you drop a rock, it moves from a (literally) higher energy state to a lower energy state. Entropy increases, and work is performed.When an electron moves to a lower energy state within an atop, it typically releases a photon.Radioactive decay is the process by which unstable elements achieve a lower, more stable energy state.A battery stores chemical energy, and its energy state is lowered as that chemical energy is lowered to perform work with electronic devices.It's all the same thing, in different forms.The fact that the amount of energy involved in a falling rock is inconsequential compared to the motion of the Earth around the Sun, or the Sun's orbit around our galactic center, or our galaxy's movement in our galactic cluster, etc is irrelevant - the energy state is still different between a rock on the ground and a rock held a meter above the ground.