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Topic: Quick Questions, Short Answers - No Debate
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Tram law
Member (Idle past 5000 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: 08-15-2010
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Re: *Bump for Tram Law*
Oh wow, thank you. I appreciate it. I'll repeat the question below: My friend says the primordial soup, the soup that from where all life came from, is nothing more than myth. He says it's a myth because the odds of such a primordial soup are astronomical to make it completely impossible for life to form from it, and therefore, the primordial Soup is a myth. Is he correct? Edit: often I do want to discuss thing, but i simply lack the capacity to. Edited by Tram law, : No reason given.
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Tram law
Member (Idle past 5000 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: 08-15-2010
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Message 16 of 341 (614179)
05-02-2011 3:06 PM
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How should one respond to the question; "If we came from apes why are there still apes?" Also, "Does DNA evidence show that evolution can't happen?"
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Tram law
Member (Idle past 5000 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: 08-15-2010
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Message 20 of 341 (614186)
05-02-2011 3:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 19 by Huntard
05-02-2011 3:14 PM
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So what resources to show the evidence for DNA are there that he will be able to understand? And yes, I do question whether he can understand anything about evolution at all. For example, I constantly tell him that adaption is a mechanism of evolution and most scientists agree with that. he says there are scientists who do not agree and refute it to show that Evolution does not exist and will constantly maintain that adaption is separate from evolution. I've done everything I know how to show him how wrong he is. But he still keeps on repeating the same things over and over again. Edited by Tram law, : No reason given.
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Tram law
Member (Idle past 5000 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: 08-15-2010
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Message 24 of 341 (614382)
05-03-2011 11:27 PM
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I'm currently reading "The Encyclopedia Of Evolution" by Stanley A. Rice. I'm reading the entry on Adapation, and it says this about expatiation as one of the causes of Adaption:
Some exaptations are the side effects of natural selection
acting upon developmental patterns (see developmental
evolution). One possible example of such an exaptation
is the human chin. Modern humans have chins, but earlier
hominids did not, and other ape species did and do not. Some
scientists tried to imagine how the chin might have aided the
survival and reproduction of the human species. One scientist
claimed the chin, when stuck out, constitutes a threat gesture.
One of the major characteristics of human evolution has been
neoteny, the retention of juvenile characteristics into adulthood.
Neoteny affected the growth patterns of the bones of
the skull, and natural selection favored jaws and teeth suitable
for an omnivorous diet in human ancestors. The chin
was a side effect of different facial bone and jaw growth
patterns. The chin was probably not, itself, selected for anything;
it could be considered an exaptation rather than an
adaptation, because natural selection acted upon neoteny, not
directly upon the chin.
And I'm having trouble visualizing and understanding which hominids didn't have a chin. Which hominids didn't have a chin and what did they look like without one in comparison to a hominid that does have one? And yes, I like to read encyclopedias. Here's the link to the book for anyone interested: http://www.amazon.com/...ion-Stanley-Ph-d-Rice/dp/0816055157 I don't fully understand expatiation either. Edit: Sorry I forgot to use the reply button. Edited by Tram law, : No reason given. Edited by Tram law, : spelling Edited by Tram law, : Another spelling
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Tram law
Member (Idle past 5000 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: 08-15-2010
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Message 28 of 341 (614432)
05-04-2011 10:33 AM
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Reply to: Message 27 by Coyote
05-04-2011 12:10 AM
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So would the chin be a mistake in adaption? There doesn't seem to be any use for it, and I can't really see how it would be threatening, but actually would look more comical than threatening.
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Tram law
Member (Idle past 5000 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: 08-15-2010
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Well, I don't see how it would actually relieve stress caused by speech. I don't understand how speech causes stress and is unnatural.
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Tram law
Member (Idle past 5000 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: 08-15-2010
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Is evolution concerned with the origins of life? Why or why not?
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Tram law
Member (Idle past 5000 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: 08-15-2010
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Message 40 of 341 (614827)
05-07-2011 11:00 AM
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Reply to: Message 39 by Taz
05-05-2011 8:30 PM
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Re: Forum changed format
What changes are you referring to? Secondly, I watched Amon Ra's 15th Foundational Falsehoods Of Creationism on you tube and in one of the parts he mentions that Evolution has a large influence on eleven fields of scientific study. Unfortunately it didn't list them and I've been wondering about them ever since I saw it. So what are these fields of science it does impact? Does it have any effect on medical sciences? Are there any other practical uses for evolution other than showing how life diversifies? Edited by Tram law, : No reason given.
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