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Why creationist definitions of evolution are wrong, terribly wrong.

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hooah212002
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Message 99 of 205 (546916)
02-14-2010 9:56 PM 		Reply to: Message 97 by Arphy
02-14-2010 9:38 PM

Re: epic fail of creolution daffynition
At any rate, the term "evolutionist" seems to only be a part of the evolution vs. creation debate. It does not, at least to me, appear to be a term used by "the general populace".
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Message 102 of 205 (546919)
02-14-2010 10:54 PM 		Reply to: Message 101 by Arphy
02-14-2010 10:36 PM

Re: epic fail of creolution daffynition
I think a more adequate definition that fits in with what people understand about evolution and what it means to be an evolutionist could possibly be "evolution is a change in frequency of hereditary traits in breeding populations from generation to generation which has allowed them to diversify from a unicelluar organism to the vast diversity of organisms found presently and in the fossil record."
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So we should define words the fit the way a layperson thinks they mean?
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Maybe we can do the same with the word "christian".
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Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.
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Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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hooah212002
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Message 104 of 205 (546922)
02-14-2010 11:53 PM 		Reply to: Message 103 by Arphy
02-14-2010 11:49 PM

Re: epic fail of creolution daffynition
Come on admit it, being an evolutionist (a believer in evolution)means that you believe that all know organisms diversified from a/(or many) unicellular organism(s). Yet this concept is strangly absent from the definition of evolution.
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Come on admit it, being a christian(a believer in christ)means that you believe that all know organisms poofed into existance magically. Yet this concept is strangly absent from the definition of christianity.
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Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan
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hooah212002
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Message 108 of 205 (546926)
02-15-2010 12:59 AM 		Reply to: Message 107 by Arphy
02-15-2010 12:47 AM

Re: epic fail of creolution daffynition
"My" definition? The definition of a word does not rest on my shoulders. It is not up to me to provide a definition. So it would also go to show that I also do not get to make up my own definitons of words. You don't either.
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See, I know what the word evolution means and implies. Not from what people who fear the term tell me it means, but what it actually means: from people who understand it and accept it as something that happens.
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I was replying to your postulation that we should tailor the definition of words to that of what "everyday folk" think they mean....or what you think they think they mean.
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Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan
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