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Author Topic:   Irreducible Complexity
chewrock
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Message 21 of 59 (27224)
12-18-2002 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by ShannonMay
10-12-2001 8:28 PM


I've never posted here before. A friend recommended that I search for the phrase "irreducable complexity", because I was talking about the NSA's involvement in the investigations into the genetic code. As you probably know, the NSA is the USA national government agency that controls the use of codes and ciphers. I worked for an SCA under the NSA for about 10 years. During that time, several things were discussed. The genetic code is a true code. It consists of a "plain", which is the living organism, an "encrypted", which is the DNA, and a "key", which are the cellular mechanisms necessary to convert the "encrypted" message into the "plain". It is a matter of policy within the NSA to consider the creation and sending of an encrypted message to be a deliberate act. Plaintext messages can be benign, random, or accidental. The sending of an encrypted message is NEVER an accident, because it presupposes that the receiver on the other end possesses the "key" and can decrypt the message on the other end and recover the Plaintext. The people who are discussing irreducable complexity have made a mistake in focusing on whole organs. The problem of evolution is much more fundamental. DNA is an encipherment. Worse, it's a COMPRESSED encipherment. That means that the "plain" has been enciphered and the encipherment has been compressed. So the decipherment on the other end must not only account for the encryption algorithim, but also for the compression algorithim! Nobody would ever create a cipher without giving the receiver the key. Such a message would never convey anything. It would appear as meaningless, random garbage to the recipient. Plain, the cipher, and the key must all come into existence at the same time. Otherwise, there is no message. It's just a bunch of junk.

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chewrock
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Message 22 of 59 (27225)
12-18-2002 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by ShannonMay
10-12-2001 8:28 PM


The NSA has some other complaints about evolution as an explanation for the existence of the genetic code. Not only is the genetic code a true compressed encipherment, but it is also an unnatural one in some regards. This message is being sent electronically, using a binary methodology. Binary means "two states" and conveys that digital stuff uses On/Off or One/Zero as the only two indicator states. Binary is also considered by most computer scientists to be the "natural" base, which is to say, Base 2. Unfortunately for the evolutionists, the genetic code isn't binary. It's quaternary. Yep, there are four different bases that are exposed when the DNA separates. Base 4 is NOT the "natural" base. It implies that somebody went beyond the naturally occuring Yes/No, On/Off, One/Zero of the minimal and natural Base 2 system when creating the genetic code.

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chewrock
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Message 23 of 59 (27227)
12-18-2002 2:07 PM
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10-12-2001 8:28 PM


Alright, one final thing about the NSA and the genetic code. The NSA analyzes codes for their origin and design. One of the most powerful methods for doing that is to look at the "message externals". Message externals are things that are NOT part of the message. For example, the address, return address, and postmark on a letter are message externals. They are not part of what the person wanted to say, they are just the routing information and some stuff about how it was transferred to its destination. Email messages have "headers" that do the same thing electronically. The evolutionists are trying to keep a tight lid on something that they have discovered. There are sections of the genetic code that do NOT appear to do anything or convey any message. In fact, there's plenty of that stuff embedded in the genetic code for the more complex organisms. If it turns out that these areas of the genetic code are serialized "version" numbers, addresses, patent marking, designer names, or other information about the entity that created that particular organism, then the evolutionists are really up a creek without a paddle. It will mean that natural variation and polymorphism were design requirements that were deliberately embedded into the genetic code of the life created on this earth. It will mean that evolutionists have been chasing variations that were intended to occur when the design was originally conceived.

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