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mark24
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Message 17 of 59 (498)
12-01-2001 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by God is Love
11-28-2001 11:05 PM


"God created the Earth...reason? simply that if the big bang really happened, somebody/thing had to create the atoms in the first place...i mean, the atoms the created the whole big bang thing didn't just appear by nothing."
Really? Actually matter & energy are interchangeable, this HAS been observed in the form of a particle & its anti-particle transforming from energy & back again. The problem remains, who created all that energy? This is a circular argument. I could just as easily ask what created God, he didn't just "appear from nothing". Can't have it both ways!
"The whole evolving thing is crud. If we did evolve, why aren't we evolving now? we've been on this earth for millions, billions of years, yet we really haven't change. "
Firstly, all the evidence is that Homo sapien sapiens has been around for about 100,000 years. NOT millions & billions. Fossil evidence puts the first single celled life forms at about 3.5 billion years old, the earth about 4.5 billion years old. Just to throw a rather obvious point at you. Where did the races come from? Given there were only a handful of middle eastern bods in the Ark? Lastly, how do you KNOW we aren't evolving now?
"the point here is that the earth and universe was CREATED. nothing as complex as the human body could have been suddenly formed merely by chance."
What evolutionist said it did? You agree with them, then?
"and if you go by the whole "it had to click eventually" thing, thats wrong. if that was true, there'd be a lot more planets out there that can sustain life: even the most simple forms."
LOL, I suppose science has a "Theory Of It Had To Click Eventually" ? Also, EXACTLY how many planets out there CAN sustain life, since you seem to know?
"THERES NO WAY THAT THE BIG BANG/EVOLUTION COULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE BECAUSE THE FACTS DON'T FIT."
The observable evidence does fit, & an overwhelming amount of it too.
"WE DID NOT EVOLVE. I WOULD BE ASHAMED TO THINK THAT I WAS FORMED BY FIRST EVOLVING FROM AN AMEOBA (pardon my spelling) I AM MUCH MORE PLEASED THE THINK THAT I WAS CREATED BY A LOVING, CARING, MERCIFULL GOD. THERE IS PROOF AS WELL THAT THE SAYINGS IN THE BIBLE ARE TRUE."
A triumph of hope over expectation. you don't want evolution to be true, therefore it isn't!? You will have to be more specific which sayings in the Bible have proof.
Theres a hell of a lot of assumption here. just because you make statements of personal incredulity doesn't mean a coherent argument has been given. You need REASONS, not ASSUMPTIONS.

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