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ZenMonkey
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Message 95 of 124 (549334)
03-05-2010 9:57 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Theodoric
03-05-2010 5:21 PM


Re: Roosevelt quote 2
Man, if you were public official saying that during Shrub's reign it would have gotten you labeled as a surrender monkey, forced to retract or apologize, and then voted out of office and sent back to selling used cars or condoms. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that congress-critters were wearing redwhitenblue ribbons the size of pie plates just so everyone would know that they were playing for the right team.
I always thought that both Bush Sr and Bush Jr were vastly under-qualified for the job. Without the name and money, Sr would likely have ended a supermarket manager, but at least he would have done okay. Bet the employees would have all hated him, though. Jr would have maybe been fit to coach highschool football and teach drivers ed, as long as he laid off the sauce. (At my highschool, you had to be a teacher if you were also going to be a coach. Those who had a little on the ball got to teach math or economics. The other guys taught drivers ed.)
But that's just personal dislike. My real anger is towards what he and his gang did to this country over the eight years of their misrule. This is a guy who is not only a war criminal, but also - whether by ignorance, malice, avarice or ineptitude - utterly wrecked a prosperous economy, exploded the national debt out past Saturn, destroyed America's reputation around the world, and did as much as humanly possible to ruin the environment for generations to come. If that's not the worst president in modern US history, then you try to come up with a record worse than that one. It's also true that he'll never be held accountable for any of this. Damn, it's still treasonous even to suggest that someone investigate the crimes that he and the republithugs committed while he was sitting in the big chair. What's it say about the mentality of a big part of the American public that this war criminal goes free, while all Clinton did was lie about getting his dick sucked by a chubby intern and he got himself impeached and nearly thrown out of office? This country is filled with yahoos and teabaggers who call Obama a Nazi for trying to get people affordable healthcare. No doubt they'd love to see Sarah Palin, possibly the only candidate for national office even less qualified than Jr, get in there in 2012 and do an even better job of wrecking what's left. I spit on all of them.
There. Now that's what a real Bush-hating rant sounds like.

I have no time for lies and fantasy, and neither should you. Enjoy or die.
-John Lydon

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ZenMonkey
Member (Idle past 4531 days)
Posts: 428
From: Portland, OR USA
Joined: 09-25-2009


Message 116 of 124 (549655)
03-09-2010 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by Hyroglyphx
03-09-2010 7:35 AM


Re: Soapbox
Hyroglyphx writes:
quote:
the president cannot declare war. Only Congress can make a legal declaration of war. What a President says is irrelevant on that matter.
That's very true except he did have full support of Congress. Only a handful in the Senate voted against it: 19 Democrats, 1 Republican, and 1 Independent.
The issue is that it is pertaining to President Bush's proposed impeachment, so I'm only relating to him.
Matters not. The Constitution clearly states that only Congress may declare war. The president can request it, but Congress must do the actual declaration. Just because every president since Roosevelt has failed to do this, that doesn't make it right for Jr to do it too.
Impeachable offense.

I have no time for lies and fantasy, and neither should you. Enjoy or die.
-John Lydon

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ZenMonkey
Member (Idle past 4531 days)
Posts: 428
From: Portland, OR USA
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Message 122 of 124 (549706)
03-10-2010 12:34 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by DevilsAdvocate
03-09-2010 11:49 PM


Re: Soapbox
DevilsAdvocate writes:
Then you would have to impeach all of Congress for going along with it without commencing impeachment hearings on the President.
Fascinating concept. How far does culpability for the Bush regime's crimes go? How much blame should Congress share for going along with an obviously unconstitutional action? How far up or down the chain of command do you go?
If the guards at Abu Ghraib deserved to go to prison, what about their commanding officer, who only got demoted? Or how about their Commander in Chief, who authorized the abuse of prisoners? There's evidence that strongly suggests that Jr issued an Executive Order that sanctioned "extraordinary interrogation techniques." Though the crimes committed at Abu Ghraib went far beyond what the Order appears to have approved of, were there other orders we don't know about, whether official or not, that gave the nod to outright torture, murder, and extraordinary extradition to countries that are known to torture and kill prisoners? Even if there weren't, didn't the existance of official approval of abuse encourage the guards at the bottom of the chain of command to "let things get out of hand?"
Once again, who's got the most blood on his hands?
Edited by ZenMonkey, : Added a conjunction.

I have no time for lies and fantasy, and neither should you. Enjoy or die.
-John Lydon

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