Hi everyone ...
I hope things are well w/ all ...
jazz writes:
Why this is important is that Eusebus is often used as a source to resolve a variety of controversies.
Rational seems amiss when one balances any relevant portion of faith and practice on the chance of whether or not an employee of one's government may have valued loyalty over honesty - after all, the victors write history.
Eusebius is THE apologist, and as such, a bold face liar when the opportunity demands. However, as often as these opportunities to relay falsifications may have presented themselves, they are not necessarily demanded. For example, am I to assume the polemist, in every instance, did not have any options available other than purposefully spouting Truth or intentionally relaying Misinformation? Tsk, tsk ...
The title of the thread appears to assume, as do many apologists also, that early Goyim Christians were somehow incapable of making mistakes, and so it follows that, whenever they failed to relay an accurate rendition of events, they must have been out and about, proselytizing us heathens with scandalous forgeries.
Ahhh, my sweet false dichotomy, how I love thee ability to paint prejudice upon the landscape ...
But, how can I appreciate the anxiety, authority, fear and power you breed, employ and promote ?
Alas, I ponder, by and while watching the sun set on Rome.
It seems safe to acknowledge that there are people who appear very uncomfortable in entertaining the notion that Eusebius' version of 'Church History' may have been an entirely fraudulent misrepresentation, and so, it seems quite reasonable to suppose that these uncomfortable reactions are to be directly associated with the belief system in which a great many common folk have been conditioned since the 4th century.
That belief system clearly states that Rome's version of history is correct and that all others have missed the mark, as it were, and will continue to be disposed of to insure that they don't meddle where they didn't belong.
Now, Apologists - by their very nature, are polemicists with at least two demonstrable agendas: to convince the unbeliever and to strengthen the faithful, and Eusebius, as well as the Roman Universal Church that employed him, admit plainly their intent on
the former, while they'd have us to assume the latter as well ...
And that is where I find the title of the thread to be misleading; would it not read more accurately as ...
'Eusebius 'the Apologist' -
Bias Polemicist Endorsed by the Murderously Hostile Roman Universal Church to Advance the Evolving Mystery Religion Through Fanciful Historic Recreation ?'
In the name of brother Joshua the Anointed One, may peace rest upon you.
One Love
And while I tend to keep an open mind while considering some of the material found within documents attributed to Paul, it can be shown with relative ease that he functioned in what he felt was a deceitful manner at times, presumably under the authority of the Doctrine of the End Justifies the Means ...
quote:
2 Corinthians 12:16
But be that as it may, I have not burdened you. Yet because I was a crafty person, I took you in by deceit.
quote:
Romans 3:7
For if by my lie the truth of God enhances his glory, why am I still actually being judged as a sinner?
quote:
Philippians 1:18
What is the result?
Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is being proclaimed, and in this I rejoice.
Yes, and I will continue to rejoice ..
People do this, religious or otherwise, day in and day out, and so, that is neither here nor there ...
Edited by Bailey, : sp,
Dear friend,
   Accept confidence. Be an inspiration. Care about others. Dare 2 b different. Envision our dreams. Find out how to love. Grant wishes. Hope hard. Invite possibility. Judge little. Keep promises. Laugh a lot. Make friends. Never give up. Open your mind. Plant miracle seeds. Question everything. Run as fast as you can just to see what it feels like. Stay true. Try your best - especially when considering to take advice and speak your mind. Understand empathy. Volunteer. Win gracefully (when you win). X marks the spot. You'll get there - Zero in on what's important and keep those things close to your heart ...
Mercy Trumps Judgement,
Love Weary