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Taz
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Message 61 of 91 (547561)
02-20-2010 1:46 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by DevilsAdvocate
02-20-2010 12:01 AM


We all know he's going to ignore all these evidence, run away, and then come back and blurt out the same shit couple months from now.

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Message 62 of 91 (547569)
02-20-2010 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by DevilsAdvocate
02-19-2010 11:28 PM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
DA writes:
?? Document borders, seals, etc change even within the same state through time. The state certified that the birth certificate is true. Or are you saying the state committed purjery? If you think so prove it in a court of law.
I see the border on your latest example of borders is like the authentic example in the Utube I cited. Yours was the alleged fraud. Look. All we the people ask for is a photocopy of the original. Just like his other records, he obviously has some reason for the stealth. We have elected the enemy who still hides in the shadows when we the people get too inquisitive about his past and who he really is.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 63 of 91 (547571)
02-20-2010 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 8:16 AM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
I see the border on your latest example of borders is like the authentic example in the Utube I cited. Yours was the alleged fraud. Look. All we the people ask for is a photocopy of the original. Just like his other records, he obviously has some reason for the stealth. We have elected the enemy who still hides in the shadows when we the people get too inquisitive about his past and who he really is.
How is it a fraud??? It has been verified by the Governor and the Department of Health Director of the State of Hawaii. In other words, you are saying the entire Hawaiian State Department commited purjury by lying about verifying his birth certificate.
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. - Carl Sagan, The Fine Art of Baloney Detection
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." - Carl Sagan
"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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subbie
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Message 64 of 91 (547573)
02-20-2010 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 8:16 AM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
Prima facie evidence, Buz. That means present facts, not speculation, fantasy or wishes. Any facts?
Edited by subbie, : tyop

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Dr Adequate
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Message 65 of 91 (547576)
02-20-2010 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 8:16 AM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
Look. All we the people ask for is a photocopy of the original. Just like his other records, he obviously has some reason for the stealth.
First of all, a handful of paranoid lunatics are not "we the people".
Secondly, I repeat my request. Can just one Hawaiian, any Hawaiian, obtain the sort of documentation that the wingnuts require as proof of citizenship?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 66 of 91 (547579)
02-20-2010 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Buzsaw
02-19-2010 8:20 PM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
That would be nice, Coragyps. What's needful for passports hadn't ought to be too much of a bother for the president and commander in chief of the military.
Just to make it absolutely clear:
"Our Certificate of Live Birth is the standard form, which was modeled after national standards that are acceptable by federal agencies and organizations," Okubo said. "With that form, you can get your passport or your soccer registration or your driver's license."
Which is why you have to pretend that the form that was produced is fake. Which leads to an interesting question. Apparently in your dreamworld this fake was good enough to fool the federal agency that issues passports, but you are so smart that you can detect it by watching a YouTube video.

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hooah212002
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Message 67 of 91 (547582)
02-20-2010 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by DevilsAdvocate
02-20-2010 12:01 AM


If you think that the case than better get a lawyer.
He's already got one, Orly Taitz

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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Apothecus
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Message 68 of 91 (547590)
02-20-2010 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Buzsaw
02-20-2010 8:16 AM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
Hey Buz.
We have elected the enemy who still hides in the shadows when we the people get too inquisitive about his past and who he really is.
Is this the segueway into claims that the current POTUS is actually a honest-to-goodness Antichrist? Sounds suspiciously like it is, and if so I'm sure we'd all like to hear your thoughts.
Have a good one.

"My own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. J.B.S Haldane 1892-1964

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hooah212002
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Message 69 of 91 (547591)
02-20-2010 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Apothecus
02-20-2010 2:06 PM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
Is this the segueway into claims that the current POTUS is actually a honest-to-goodness Antichrist?
I thought he was going towards an alien who is here to destroy the planet.....
Antichrist...Evil Alien...what's the difference?

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 70 of 91 (547592)
02-20-2010 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Dr Adequate
02-20-2010 11:30 AM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
Which is why you have to pretend that the form that was produced is fake. Which leads to an interesting question. Apparently in your dreamworld this fake was good enough to fool the federal agency that issues passports, but you are so smart that you can detect it by watching a YouTube video.
This foragery was so good that forgers fooled themselves. So the question is, if this document is a forgery who did it come from? Did it come from Barak Obama or one of his staff? If this is the case how did the State of Hawaii itself buy off on it? How and why would the Hawaiian Department of Health and its Republican Governor, verbally and in writing, endorse a document that did not originate from their own office, themselves risking perjury and up to ten years in prison for endorsing a known forgery?? Are you fucking kidding me?
Buzz, your logic fails the common sense factor.
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. - Carl Sagan, The Fine Art of Baloney Detection
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." - Carl Sagan
"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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hooah212002
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Message 71 of 91 (547593)
02-20-2010 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by DevilsAdvocate
02-20-2010 2:28 PM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
Simple: The Prez paid them off and pardoned them, ensuring they will not get into any trouble for wrongdoing.

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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Coragyps
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Message 72 of 91 (547594)
02-20-2010 2:43 PM


And, Buzzy, how the fuck did the Honolulu newspapers know to publish birth notices for little Barack in 1961? Or is that the work of evil atheistic muslim socialist nazi commie Democrat reptiloid time travellers?
Have you seen GW Bush's long form birth certificate? Or Ronald Reagan's? I thought not.....

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hooah212002
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Message 73 of 91 (547595)
02-20-2010 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Coragyps
02-20-2010 2:43 PM


Have you seen GW Bush's long form birth certificate? Or Ronald Reagan's? I thought not.....
They are white with American names...why would we need to see their documentation?
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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Granny Magda
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Message 74 of 91 (547596)
02-20-2010 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Buzsaw
02-19-2010 8:35 PM


Re: Texas Cartoon
For Chrissakes Buz,
........says 1 100th of 1% of the people of the great state of Texas who's likely never been out of the state to appreciate how congenial, industrious and proficient most Texans are.
Get a sense of humour dude. It's a cartoon. Y'know, a joke? Humour, witticism, funny, ha-ha. It's not intended to be serious claim about the intellectual capacities of Texans. Lighten up.
The fact is that when 30% of Texans think that humans and dinosaurs co-existed, they invite, nay, positively demand mockery.
Anyway, how do you know that all those nice Texans you met were really Texan? They could have been Indonesian. Did you see their birth certificates?
Mutate and Survive

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Buzsaw
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Message 75 of 91 (547597)
02-20-2010 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Dr Adequate
02-20-2010 11:06 AM


Re: Long Form Hold Back
Dr Adequate writes:
First of all, a handful of paranoid lunatics are not "we the people".
Make that, we the vigilant people, who question the Bill Ayres terrorist connection, the Nation Of Islam connection via Obama's former church who's pastor for 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, advocated racist black supremicism, the president who's admin absolves the Black Panthers from inditement for voter intimidation, the radical Accorn community organizer, the candidate endorsed by the Communist Party, Hammas and most of Islam, the president who envisions a paramilitary civilian (likely thug as Iran has) army equal to that of the legitimate national military to keep the sheeples in line and the president who's administration consists of appointed radical czars unconfirmed by Congress.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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