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Author Topic:   Straightforward, hard-to-answer-questions about the Bible/Christianity
nwr
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Message 249 of 477 (558955)
05-05-2010 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 245 by Dr Adequate
05-05-2010 2:03 PM


Re: A farce by any other name ...
Dr Adequate writes:
I do, but not if I first have to agree as a premise that "the scientific method is useless".
I also did a double take when I saw that in Pauline's post. However, on a reread, I think he only intended "the scientific method is useless for studying the supernatural."

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Message 287 of 477 (559188)
05-07-2010 10:41 AM
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05-07-2010 8:54 AM


Re: Hypothesis, Prediction, Observations
Dr Adequate writes:
There's no reason a priori why we can't observe the effects of the supernatural.
I am inclined to disagree with that.
It is not as if the world were divided into two fixed realms, the natural and the supernatural, and that thus far we only have evidence of the natural. Rather, it that whenever there is evidence, we call that natural, and we relegate the term "supernatural" for that for which there is no evidence.
Dr Adequate writes:
We can perfectly well imagine a god who constantly sent squads of angels to Earth to go about singing his praises and smiting wrongdoers. We'd notice.
Yes, we would indeed notice. And we would call that a natural phenomenon. So we would not consider it to be evidence of the supernatural.

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