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AZPaul3
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Message 34 of 477 (547915)
02-23-2010 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Blue Jay
02-23-2010 9:42 PM


Re: Why & how did Jesus have to die for our sins?
Okay, so, a perfect woman chose to disobey God?
No. It was a bum rap. Being perfect Eve had no other choice than to perform according to her very reason for existence. She played her part just as the director ordered. It was a set up.. a subterfuge. She never saw it coming. Poor girl's been bearing the brunt of the director's faux wrath ever since.

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AZPaul3
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Message 38 of 477 (547921)
02-23-2010 10:19 PM
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02-23-2010 10:03 PM


Re: Why & how did Jesus have to die for our sins?
How else do snake oil salesmen make their living?
Well, since you asked ... it's the spin-off merchandising. The t-shirts, ball caps, those little plastic mama snakes curled up in their cardboard nests surrounded by those cute little baby snakelings. The oil is just the come-on. The real killing is in the spin-off.
As for the cliff? You might be right there. I was always partial to ribs.

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Message 201 of 477 (552286)
03-28-2010 12:20 AM
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03-27-2010 3:15 PM


The Gospel According to AZPaul3
AZPaul3 4-6 (New World Freedom Edition)
Know ye the power that is ours, a greater power than any else upon the heavens and upon the earth. All gods, save not one, doth know of our power and fear of us. No god nor devil nor spirit of any place nor of any time may overcome us nor defeat us.
-AZPaul3 4:13-15
No host of heaven nor spawn of hell are safe from us. All are subject to our voice and to our thought. Know ye the power of our voice and the power of our thought that none may continue but be vanished from the mind of humanity.
-AZPaul3 4:18-20
And They said unto the believer, Feel how he doth tremble in your heart. Yea, he doth tremble in our presence and at the mention of our name and with the hearing of our name he doth tremble. See him scurry as doth the frightened rat unto the shadows of your mind. See him hide unto the darkness of your ignorance.
-AZPaul3 5:5-9
From the depth of our mind we banish him. By the power of our voice and the power of our thought we consign him to oblivion for all eternity. He is of no affect nor does he have power over our minds nor over our lives nor over our world nor over any world nor over any space nor over any time. He will be as forgotten as the thousands of gods that came before him. By our power he is banished from the minds of men from which he came.
-AZPaul3 5:14-18
Know ye the power that is ours, a greater power than any else upon the heavens and upon the earth. But with a word, but with a thought, we vanquish the once thought powerful that ruled us by fear and gave us ignorance and death, the once thought all mighty that cowed us into evil and all manner of abomination. We are the power. We are the all mighty.
We are Atheist.
-AZPaul3 6:8-12
Edited by AZPaul3, : a better thought

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AZPaul3
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Message 378 of 477 (564406)
06-10-2010 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 377 by Pauline
06-10-2010 9:10 AM


Re: Why & how did Jesus have to die for our sins?
Huntard writes:
But his creations see each other as slaves. So, what does god do? Does he make it perfectly clear that we should not treat each other as property? Nope, in fact, he allows it and sets up rules for it.
Dr. Sing responds:
Unless you understand (or even attempt to) the big picture of how things work in the Bible, you are doomed to misinterpret it in abysmally wrong ways....like what you were just doing.
Oh. Huntard is wrong and there is an admonition from god against slavery? Is the affecting passage in the OT or the NT? Either? Both?
And Huntard is wrong about the biblical rules for slave owners on how to buy, sell, punish? Are Leviticus and Exodus no longer in the standard cannon?
And 1 Timothy 6, Luke 12? Paul's admonitions to the bonded and their masters in Ephesians 6? All are now gone?
Or are they ...
Just exactly where and how did Huntard make this "the babbling from inaccurate knowledge" fallacy?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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Message 382 of 477 (564469)
06-10-2010 5:31 PM
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06-10-2010 4:19 PM


Re: Why & how did Jesus have to die for our sins?
The Bible doesn't ever advocate slavery.
Neither does it condemn it.
The Bible does not demand slavery.
Neither does it enjoin it.
The Bible gives rules and regulations about treating slaves.
Which is tacit acceptance of the practice.
And yet homosexuality is a strict and vocal abomination.
Why the difference with the abomination of slavery?
Slavery was part and parcel to old middle east culture. It was as ubiquitous in society as today's cell phones. No one gave it much thought. It was just the natural order of things back then.
What this says is that the writers gave no thought to the institution as one would expect from an inspired divinity; at least one who had any objection to the practice.
Yes, indeed, this shows the bible to be a real book written by real men without divine inspiration. The alternative being that the divine inspiration came from a blood mongering schitzoid psychopath who apparently couldn't care less about the sufferings of his creation. I prefer the former.

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