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Author Topic:   Straightforward, hard-to-answer-questions about the Bible/Christianity
rueh
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From: universal city tx
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Message 18 of 477 (547860)
02-23-2010 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by ICANT
02-23-2010 1:12 PM


Re: Why & how did Jesus have to die for our sins?
Hello Icant,
Icant writes:
God created man in Genesis 2:7 and that man was perfect.
That man chose to disobey God and thus all mankind are now imperfect
The problem I see with this interpretation, is that it assumes that God did not know the outcome of his own creation. If God is omnipotent then he had to of known that man would choose to disopbey his commandment, thus becoming imperfect. It still equates to God creating an imperfect creation no matter how I look at it. Unless as I stated earlier that God is not omnipotent, or the creation of evil and imperfection was necesarry for life/creation to occur at all.

'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat'
The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ
The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX

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rueh
Member (Idle past 3687 days)
Posts: 382
From: universal city tx
Joined: 03-03-2008


Message 22 of 477 (547878)
02-23-2010 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by ICANT
02-23-2010 2:08 PM


Re: Why & how did Jesus have to die for our sins?
Hello Icant,
Icant writes:
Yes God knew the man was going to choose to disobey Him. Just as He knew you was going to write the above paragraph today.
Did He make you write the above paragraph I referenced?
Well that depends I quess. If God knows what I will do before I ever do it than the idea of free will is moot. Since God would already know whether or not he would condem me to hell or lavish me with paradise before I was ever born. In which case we are back to God bringing forth creations whose fate is already predetermined regardless of their circumstances.

'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat'
The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ
The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX

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