Did God say it, or did you say it?

Hi greyseal, i just wanted to point out that Yom is found througout the hebrew scriptures and we see it used in many varied instances and contexts....i'll give you some examples of how YOM is used to show that it can mean a longer period of time then a 24hour day.Isaiah 1:1 "The vision of Isaiah the son of A′moz that he visioned concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the DAYS (YOM) of Uz‧zi′ah, Jo′tham, A′haz [and] Hez‧e‧ki′ah, kings of Judah:
these days would amount to many more then 24hours because it is the whole lifetime of these people mentionedGenesis 2:4: This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the DAY (YOM) that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.
here the entire creation of both the universe and the earth are called a day, this shows that Yom can be used for the whole period of time in which an extradorinary event took placeGenesis 1:4 "After that God saw that the light was good, and God brought about a division between the light and the darkness. 5And God began calling the light DAY (YOM)"
here we see Yom is in reference to the light that is seen in the skyNumbers 14:34 By the number of the DAYS (YOM) that YOU spied out the land, forty days, a day (YOM) for a year, a day for a year, YOU will answer for YOUR errors forty years"
in this verse we see that a YOM is equal to an entire year

an earth without form does not mean 'non existing'especially considering the watery deep was existing in the same verse. If the watery deep was covering the entire earth as is likely the case, then its quite accurate to say the 'earth' was without form.

2 Peter 3: 8"However, let this one fact not be escaping YOUR notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day"

i think you need to redo your math on that onefrom evening to morning is 12 hours, not 24.24 hours would be from evening to evening.

Well, i just dont get it.if the evening begins at sundown, thats say 6.30pmand if morning begins at sunup, thats about 5.30/6.00amI dont see how it amounts to 24hours

Oh c'mon, i've shown this a million times alreadyGenesis 1:5 5And God began calling the light Day, but the darkness he called Night.Genesis 1:5The light on earth is only 12 hours in length before the darkness, unless you think otherwise.God called the light Day/Yom. And it was only 12 hours.Please remember this scripture.

Thats simply incorrect.The bible does not use yom 'generally' to signify 24 hours at all.I've shown several scriptures where Yom is used to indicate long period of time.the first is Genesis 1:5 where only the 12 hours of light is called 'day'
the 2nd is Genesis 2:4 where we see all 6 days are called 'ONE DAY'In other passages, day is seen to be used to indicate a measure of distance, as in the expressions a day’s journey found at Numbers 11.31. In prophecy it has been used used to stand for one year as found at Ezekiel 4.6 and Numbers 14:34. It is used with reference to a persons lifetime as found at Isaiah 1:1And considering we are talking about Genesis specifically, why does the 7th day not end with "and there came to be evening and there came to be mornign a 7th day"it simply says "and God proceeded to rest on the 7th day" but it doesnt say that that day came to an end as it does the previous 6. Rather, we see the Apostle Paul telling christians 4,000 years later that Gods rest day was still in progress.You can claim that Yom means a 24 hour day all you like, but the bible does not present that picture at all. The word itself can be used in a wide range of circumstances and the jews didnt even begin dividing the day into hours until after the babylonian exile.

you are missing the point.YOM does not stand for a specific length of time. It is a word to describe time in general....nothing specific.It can mean 12 hours or 12 months or 12 years or 1 million years.Its the same as the english term "i'll see you later"what does 'later' mean in this context? it could mean i'll see you tonight or tomorrow, or it could mean i'll see you in 3 weeks, or 2 months or next year....its not a set time.the hebrew word Yom is exactly like that. Its non specific. you know i love a challenge :wink:Genesis 1:5 'the light he called day' The 12 hour period is called a day
Genesis 2:4 'in the day that God created the heaven and earth' All the days are called 1 day.
Isaiah 1:1 'in the days of Uzziah, Jothan, Ahaz, Hezekiah' the lifetimes of 4 consecutive kings.
2Peter 3:7 'the day of judgement' which is a 1,000 year periodenjoy.

no, the hebrew word YOM stands for any length of time. Thats all.In english, a day can also be a longer period of time more then 24 hours.If an old person tells you a story that begins with "back in my day" , you understand that he is not speaking about a specific 24 hour day but rather the years of his life when he was a younger person.I dont understand why no one gets this point about Yom. ????

I did mention earlier that the Apostle Paul indicated that the 7th day of creation, called the sabbath, was still in progress in his day. He encouraged christians to 'enter into Gods rest'Now if he didnt believe that the 7th day was still in progress, why would he say that it was still occuring and christians had an opportunity to enter into it???Read Hebrews 3 very carefully and you'll see that Paul was telling christians not to become like the faithless isrealites, but rather keep faith in God and enter into his sacred rest day.

its not MY definitionStrongs hebrew dictionary defines it as 'age'Original Word: יוֹם
Transliteration: yom
Phonetic Spelling: (yome)
Short Definition: ageWord Origin
a prim. rootDefinition
day
NASB Word Usage
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Yes, he did say that the 'light' was the 'day'But some people think that this also means that the 'day' was 24hours....why should I believe that???What do you think? Is 'day' only the 12 hours of light, or is 'day' the full 24 hours? And why is the same hebrew word used in so many different ways?

because it is impossible that the earth and all in it came into existence in 6 days.Physically impossible.Genesis says that God commanded the animals he had created to 'go forth and multiply' and im pretty sure that reproduction takes more then 1 day. God obviously didnt create each individual animal....he made several whom then went forth and multiplied....that would have taken years. Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

the bible doesnt even imply that it was all instantaneous so why assume that it was?

yeah, lets ignore the meaning of the hebrew word used and just assume that moses actually wrote the english word 'day'why not, everyone else does