Is Jesus God?

Hi Peg.
I'm pretty much on the same page with you on this. Jesus was not a man before he was born a man. In that he came forth from the Holy Spirit, indicates that his pre-existence was totally spirit, i.e part and parcel of the Holy Spirit, being the spirit of the father and of the son.Jesus's role relative to man is that he is lord/master and son of Jehovah, god. You will notice that in the first & second greeting verses of nearly all of the epistles we read phrases, something like, "Greetings from God our Father and our Lord, Jesus Christ."These are two different roles. Jesus will be our judge in the rewarding of the saints judgement etc and he will be lord/master/messianic ruler of the planet in the messianic millenium which will indeed come soon on earth. We, God's children by new (Holy Spirit) birth, i.e. receiving Jesus, i.e. his spirit) will be co-heirs with our lord/master Jesus in that messianic kingdom. The church/true Christians are depicted as the bride of Jesus/lord/master.The role of Jesus is not to be recipient of our prayers. That is the role of the father, Jehovah, Jesus being the mediator in who's name we pray. He was the sinless perfect sacrifice offering for sin and he is the perfect sinless high priest/mediator so as to get our (sinner's) prayers through to a holy god.There's nothing wrong with the term trinity, meaning three in unity, i.e. unified by one spirit. The three are mentioned in Matthew relative to baptism in the name of the father, son, and spirit (3) Only two, however have proper names, being Jesus/son of Jehovah/god and Jehovah/father/god, father of Jesus by birth and Christians by new birth.THE TRINITY WAY
God is our father, to whom we should pray.
Jesus, God's son is our lord and the way.
The Spirit was given from God in his love
To give us new life and be born from above.God is the father; Jesus the son.
The Spirit of them makes the three one.God sent the savior to die on the tree
To pay for our sins and redeem you and me
So believe in Christ Jesus; yield to him all
Your soul he will save, as on him you call.
Buz

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Jesus now sits on the right hand of God on God's throne in Heaven. Jesus will come back to planet earth, his feet will light upon the Mt of Olives from where he ascended and he will set up his throne on Mt Zion, the Temple Mt in Jerusalem. The sharing of Jesus's throne, i.e. the messianic throne right handed down from David is not the sharing of God's throne. This is all as per the literal reading of the messianic scriptures. This is just one of very many scriptures which JWs do not take literally. Thus it's simply picking and choosing what you want to take literally and what you don't. It's a very precarious way of handling scripture because it's all concocted up from the imaginations of man and not the literal reading of the scripture. This, imo, is why the majority of Christians regard JW as a cult because it interprets far out from what is written in some key doctrinal scriptures.Peg, you need to take a real good look at Revelation 1:3 where Jesus via John spells out, in a few words, the secret of interpretation prophecy.Rev 1:3 ASV Especially note the phrase, "keep that which is written."

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Hi Peg. This is a good example of why you shouldn't be spoon fed from your central source of doctrine. JWs have the same problem as the secularists on this board relative to your rejection of a literal return of Jesus.Remember that all important word, corroboration. The significant prophecies of the OT prophets come into play here, corroborating with the statements of Jesus and the apostles. You need to read, reread and read again thoughtfully with pen and paper taking notes the messianic chapters of Ezekiel 36-39, the latter chapters of Zechariah, Joel, Zephaniah, etc. I suggest beginning with Ezekiel 36-39, the reason being that this is a concise sequence of Israeli messianic events signifying apocalypse.It's a crying shame that so many Christian brethren who don't care a whit about the amazing prophecies are oblivious to these things which are coming to pass before our eyes. This is indiciative of II Thessalonians 2 where Paul states the anti-christ will not be revealed until apostacy (departure from truth) prevails. One reason for the evangelical apathy toward end time prophecy is that they falsely think they will raptured (caught up) out before tribulation so who cares. Western evangelicals, unlike thrird world evangelicals don't realize that tribulation/persecution of Christians is well underway just as prophesied.This pertains to is Jesus God in that Jesus/messiah, during the messianic kingdom will be as (I say as) Jehovah to the nations of the whole world, to the extent that they will call him Jehovah. Zechariah 14 explains how this will play out. Edited by Buzsaw, : Tidying up and changing message title

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.