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Species8472
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Message 109 of 245 (548920)
03-02-2010 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Buzsaw
03-02-2010 1:07 PM


Re: Establishment Of Athiesm
Buzsaw writes:
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Stalin espoused Marxism and Lenninism, both of which sought to abolish religion.
I'd have to agree with the other posters here. Having both grown up catholic and in a communist country, I have always noticed the resemblance between the two theologies. What I know about the actual communist states that came into existence have little to resemble what Carl Marx had in mind.
Just because Stalin claimed to be a follower of Marxism doesn't mean he actually followed it. I am reminded of the KKK in this case. They all claim to be Christians, yet their actions and words are anything but Christ-like. Hitler is another example. He claimed to be a Christian. In Mein Campf, he repeatedly said that he was going to do God's work on Earth. He even claimed that he was commanded by God to do what he was going to do. And I don't think it's fair to say what the Nazis did was Christian ideology, wouldn't you say?

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Species8472
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Message 135 of 245 (549506)
03-08-2010 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by onifre
03-06-2010 2:11 PM


Re: Your premise is flawed
Onifre writes
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First, there is no such thing as "non-belief," that is a made up term. It refers to nothing at all.
I live my life with the knowledge that if I drop something it will fall, not that a supernatural entity will suspend it in mid-air. That's what atheism is, nothing more nothing less.
I respectfully disagree with you. Yes, non-belief is a made up word, just like every other word in the English language that describes a thought or train of thought. A word has to start somewhere before it becomes commonly accepted and widely understood. And it is also used to replace the two sentences you had to use to convey the train of thought. So, next time instead of wasting bandwidth trying to explain to someone what your thoughts on the matter are, all you have to do is use the term "non-belief".
Non-belief refers to the absent of belief in the supernatural. It is used to emphasize the fact that non-believers aren't necessarily anti-religious.
It is sort of like when I say I'm not a lawyer to emphasize the fact that while I'm not a lawyer I'm not necessarily anti-lawyer... never mind.
You get the idea.
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And anti-religious people don't have to be atheist, they could be deist or agnostic. So your whole position is irrelevant.
Religion is generally used as short for organized religion. I know plenty of theists who have very negative attitude towards organized religion.
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