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Author Topic:   Doesn't the distance of stars disprove the young earth theory?
driewerf
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Message 98 of 138 (574166)
08-14-2010 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by nlerd
03-11-2010 6:25 AM


Re: No and yes
If god didn't do the things in the bible the way it says they were done, how is someone supposed to know what is and is not true in the bible? Unless you mean some other kind of truth? And as for wisdom, old wisdom is not always good wisdom. A few hundred years ago the wise said that the old lady next door with all the cats could be a witch and that you could turn lead into gold if you tried hard enough.
I think "true" or "not true" are categories that don't apply to the bible. The bible was written by the the jews at a time that the scientific outlook was still very poor. they tried to make sense of a world they didn't understand and that was very hostile. (To mention just one aspect of this hostiel world: compare the risk of dying for a woman during birth in a underdevelopped country with that in an industrial country. And even the underdevelopped countries are better than the primitive conditions in which the jews lived then.)
We can read the bible, to try to appreciate how primitive people see the world, but we can't apply criteria like true or not true to this.
Edited by driewerf, : No reason given.

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driewerf
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Message 99 of 138 (574170)
08-14-2010 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Apothecus
08-12-2010 2:35 PM


I may be completely off base in my thinking here, but Nuimshaan may have a point.
Imagine that a star became visible to eyes on earth by *insert star formation method here * back in, say, 150,000 BCE, and that that visible star wasn't catalogued until say, 600 CE. In, say, 1975, this star was found by parallax, red shift, etc... to be 300000 light years away. I think he's saying that since we don't know exactly when that light became visible to us here on earth, the age of that star is impossible to know. If we'd have been on earth to make a measurement of 300000 light years away at the moment the star became visible, we'd know that it was born about 300000 years ago...
However...
That's not to say that star is still around. The star could have been blown apart by evil spacefarers 3000 years after it was formed (work with me here), and thus we'd be viewing it not as it is, which is a bunch of space debris and heat, but as it was, which is a nice, pretty star.
But again, I may be talking way out of my arse. Anyone?
I think that quite a lot of your trouble comes from the fact that you stronly underestimate the lifetime of stars. Even very short living stars live easely a few billions of years. Even with our knowledge now, we can't estimate the age of stars with the accuracy of hundredthousands of years. So your whole argument is baseless.

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