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Evopeach
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Message 196 of 238 (287257)
02-16-2006 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 192 by Percy
02-16-2006 8:04 AM


Re: Going back off topic
Its almost incredible that your team cannot stick to the original point .. I am amazed.. really.
My post related to the inherent error rate in copying the DNA molecule in the human call.. in a statistically significant estimate over the entirity of the genome.
It did not relate to all sources of mutation, mutation in the gamete, mutation per child, per generation or any other per beyond per replication of the dna molecule.
Again read my source "Exons, Entrons and Jumping Genes".

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sidelined
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Message 197 of 238 (287262)
02-16-2006 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 195 by Evopeach
02-16-2006 9:34 AM


Re: Going back off topic
Evopeach
Duane Gish has scientific credentials. As a biochemist, he has synthesized peptides, compounds intermediate between amino acids and proteins. He has been co-author of a number of publications in peptide chemistry.1
I never said he did not. I was simply putting your misdirection of importance by association at rest for what it actually was.
If you had any class you would issue a public apology to Dr. Gish for your ignorant and uninformed ad hominem attack.
I owe Gish no apology since the deceptive methods shown here are yours, not his. I will not apologize for your actions and I will certainly not apologize to you good sir.

But I realize now that these people were not in science; they didn’t understand it. They didn’t understand technology; they didn’t understand their time. R.P. Feynman

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Evopeach
Member (Idle past 6613 days)
Posts: 224
From: Stroud, OK USA
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Message 198 of 238 (287264)
02-16-2006 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 197 by sidelined
02-16-2006 9:50 AM


Re: Going back off topic
You called him a hack and a fraud. The record stands and your lack of credibility is fully accounted for.
I would never ask for an apology to me from anyone on this forum and if given would not be accepted.

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sidelined
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Message 199 of 238 (287267)
02-16-2006 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by Evopeach
02-16-2006 9:55 AM


Re: Going back off topic
Evopeach
You called him a hack and a fraud
LOL
You have not been paying attention have you?
Perhaps little details surpass your judgement on these things and you carry this on into your own work?
Seriously, son, please make sure you know whom you are talking to before inserting your foot in your mouth.

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Evopeach
Member (Idle past 6613 days)
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From: Stroud, OK USA
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Message 200 of 238 (287278)
02-16-2006 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by sidelined
02-16-2006 10:01 AM


Re: Going back off topic
Was there some actual information in your post? I thought gibberish was forbidden here.
I'm not your son, friend, acquaintance or anything else so stow your condecension.

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Percy
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Message 201 of 238 (287280)
02-16-2006 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 196 by Evopeach
02-16-2006 9:47 AM


Re: Going back off topic
Evopeach writes:
Its almost incredible that your team cannot stick to the original point .. I am amazed.. really.
The first paragraph of my post was on-topic and rebutted your point. I can do no more than that.
My post related to the inherent error rate in copying the DNA molecule in the human call.. in a statistically significant estimate over the entirity of the genome.
It did not relate to all sources of mutation, mutation in the gamete, mutation per child, per generation or any other per beyond per replication of the dna molecule.
Oh, okay.
Again read my source "Exons, Entrons and Jumping Genes".
We usually request that members make their points in the posts, not by handing out reading assignments.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 202 of 238 (287282)
02-16-2006 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by Evopeach
02-16-2006 10:22 AM


Re: Going back off topic
Hi Evopeach,
Some clarification for you. Sidelined was only pointing out, in an indirect way, that you are confused. You accused him of calling Gish a hack and a fraud when it was Rrhain who did that.
--Percy

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sidelined
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Message 203 of 238 (287286)
02-16-2006 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by Percy
02-16-2006 10:28 AM


Re: Going back off topic
Percy
Ahhh. you gave the answer away.

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Evopeach
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Message 204 of 238 (287326)
02-16-2006 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by Percy
02-16-2006 10:28 AM


Re: Going back off topic
I was hoping for consistency; but alas in prior posts you and others demand references ( why would you ask for them unless you wanted to read them) and now references are ver botin as unwanted reading assignments. Its really rather humorous.

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sidelined
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From: Edmonton Alberta Canada
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Message 205 of 238 (287336)
02-16-2006 1:24 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Evopeach
02-16-2006 12:54 PM


Re: Going back off topic
Evopeach
The issue I had concerned your linking with the nobel prize in chemistry to the name of Duane Gish as though this were an important point. It is not and this is really the crux of the matter.

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Evopeach
Member (Idle past 6613 days)
Posts: 224
From: Stroud, OK USA
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Message 206 of 238 (287340)
02-16-2006 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 205 by sidelined
02-16-2006 1:24 PM


Re: Going back off topic
Of course it is !! LOL!! I see a few people picked up on your hypocrisy and you're sqirming.

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Message 207 of 238 (287341)
02-16-2006 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Evopeach
02-16-2006 12:54 PM


Re: Going back off topic
Hi Evopeach,
I regret again having to drop into Admin mode in a thread in which I am a participant, but you again seem to be having trouble grasping the Forum Guidelines. I've attempted to give you low key reminders as Percy, but you're just mocking me and continuing to ignore the guidelines.
In regard to this:
Evopeach writes:
I was hoping for consistency; but alas in prior posts you and others demand references ( why would you ask for them unless you wanted to read them) and now references are ver botin as unwanted reading assignments. Its really rather humorous.
The Forum Guidelines are quite explicit about this:
  1. Bare links with no supporting discussion should be avoided. Make the argument in your own words and use links as supporting references.
Regarding behavior, the Forum Guidelines are again explicit:
  1. Always treat other members with respect. Argue the position, not the person. Avoid abusive, harassing and invasive behavior. Avoid needling, hectoring and goading tactics.
Please follow the Forum Guidelines. Thanks!

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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2ice_baked_taters
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Message 208 of 238 (287398)
02-16-2006 5:01 PM


I have not read the complete forum. But I am wondering if from the sources quoting a percieved rate of genetic mutation the influx of outside natural influences was considered and what impact that may have on the percieved rate.
I have toughts on inteligent design but they cannot be discusssed properly in this narrow context. I will continue to search the site for a more suitable venue.

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Percy
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Message 209 of 238 (287401)
02-16-2006 5:13 PM
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02-16-2006 5:01 PM


2ice_baked_taters writes:
I have not read the complete forum...I will continue to search the site for a more suitable venue.
The site has 284,522 messages and counting. Let us know when you're done!
Welcome aboard!
--Percy

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sidelined
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Posts: 3435
From: Edmonton Alberta Canada
Joined: 08-30-2003


Message 210 of 238 (287499)
02-17-2006 1:11 AM
Reply to: Message 206 by Evopeach
02-16-2006 1:42 PM


Re: Going back off topic
Evopeach
I see a few people picked up on your hypocrisy and you're sqirming
Squirming? In your dreams.
This message has been edited by sidelined, Fri, 2006-02-17 07:46 AM

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