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ICANT
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Message 7 of 348 (550309)
03-14-2010 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by ZenMonkey
03-14-2010 12:50 PM


Re: For the sake of sanity.
Hi Zen,
Zenmonkey writes:
I'll suggest that maybe it would be wise to pick one extraordinary claim that hasn't been beaten to death - the Exodus, the Tower of Babel, something like that - and see what can be made of it.
Claim
Moses in the Bible writes:
Genesis 1;1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Evidence
The heavens and the earth exist.
God Bless,
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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ICANT
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Message 10 of 348 (550317)
03-14-2010 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by lyx2no
03-14-2010 3:46 PM


Re: For the sake of sanity.
Hi no,
lyx2no writes:
I created the Heavens and the Earth.
The evidence:
The heavens and the Earth exist.
P.S. And I didn't make it out of positrons. One more point for me.
I would think science would disagree with you creating the heaven and the earth in your lifetime.
But I might be wrong.
If you created it you did create positrons as they exist also.
I am glad we have found one thing we can agree on and that is that the heavens and the earth exist.
God Bless,
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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ICANT
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Message 20 of 348 (550355)
03-15-2010 2:13 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Hyroglyphx
03-14-2010 8:35 PM


Re: For the sake of sanity.
ICANT's digression is off-topic. Please do not reply. --Admin
Hi Hyro,
Hyroglyphx writes:
You're forgetting one critical element. The causation for what exists -- God. Where is the indisputable evidence of that? Sure, the earth exists. That doesn't prove that God, whatever God is, created it. Therein lies the crux of the situation.
Where is the indisputable verifiable evidence it happened any other way?
Since God claims to be everything that is when He says "I AM"
He would have the ability and the material to do the job.
Whatever created the heavens and the earth had to have the ability and the material.
Since our universe is the only isolated system in existence as I have been told several times there is nothing outside of it. Therefore matter and energy cannot be created in it.
Therefore whatever created the heaven and the earth would be God. Making the statement in Genesis 1:1 a fact.
It doesn't make any difference what or who created the universe whether it was the God I believe in or the pea sized God that I have been told had the entire universe in it. Either one had to be the existence of everything that exist today.
God Bless,
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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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