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Author Topic:   Health care reform almost at the finish line... correction: it's finished
Hyroglyphx
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Message 5 of 174 (550783)
03-18-2010 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
03-17-2010 11:16 PM


Educated decisions on health reform
Let's stop ignoring this topic. It's about to happen.
It is very difficult to get to the truth while sifting through this sea of political pundits and hysteria on both sides of the isle. The Right has nothing good to say about it, and you can't even get a consensus from the Left. Kucinich and Moore are hugely opposed to it, among many other dissenters on the same side of political spectrum.
I have therefore been waiting for it to be posted on the internet, per the Government Transparency Act. I finally have a copy, but reading through it carefully is a huge undertaking. The Bill is over 1,000-pages of pure bureaucracy. The Bill is pure legalese, which is absolutely boring. But it is necessary, nonetheless.
From what I have read so far, I can say that I have grave concerns about funding such a huge operation while in the midst of a massive deficit that continues to increase daily.
In the meantime I will continue to read the bill before I can give a final endorsement to propose it or oppose it.

"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 6 of 174 (550784)
03-18-2010 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by hooah212002
03-17-2010 11:20 PM


Who to turn to for unbiased answers?
I'm not a lawyer and I don't have time to read the bill itself, but I can't trust any source to not embellish something and put their spin on it.
Therein lies the crux. I feel your pain.

"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 87 of 174 (551013)
03-20-2010 10:12 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by hooah212002
03-19-2010 11:49 PM


Re: Medicare you can buy into
I'm sorry, Oni, but what does this have to do with the proposal Alan Grayson has up?
As a side note, Grayson is a pitbull and also hilarious.
Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given.

"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 143 of 174 (551836)
03-24-2010 1:17 PM


Specific concerns
My concerns about the Health Care Reform Bill are as follows:
1. The pricetag: The 1st 10 years of the projection has a pricetag of 1 trillion dollars. That is an additional trillion dollars to the already staggering national debt.
2. Another Social Security?: Will this be similar to the flop of Social Security? Just like it was promised in Social Security, you could "opt" to buy in to the program. The problem is that Social Security is essentially run on IOU's. There is supposed to be a separate fund, but there isn't. As soon as the government receives the funds, they spend it with the assurance that the next generation will continue to make money to keep the system alive.
What ended up happening is that it didn't have enough people opting in to the program to subsidize it. It then became a compulsory tax for all working Americans to pay in to, whether you see a dime of it or not. It is a broken system if it will be bankrupt by the time you ever get to the age in where you could use it.
3. Bait and Swtich: The bill states that if you like your insurance provider, you can stay with them. Isn't the inevitiability for companies, which pay out the ass for insurance for their employees, to dump their workers on to the very limited "public option" plan? They say, no, by law companies have to provide you with insurance. The plan would be off-limits to the millions of Americans who get their insurance from employers. The limitation, of course, is meant to prevent the government taking away business from the private sector which, like it or not, the government is completely reliant on. With so few people using the plan, how will it lower health care costs or compete against insurance providers that very cheap insurance?
What then is the point? The only conclusion I can come up with is that it is designed for taxpayers to pay for people who don't work, either by design or circumstance. And even then, the "public option" is so limited (a few thousand dollars a year!), it hardly makes it much of an option anyhow. I just received a bill for an emergency room visit for my daughter that cost over $7,000. Of course, my insurance is picking up the tab, but imagine if I had this highly touted public option? She couldn't get sick for the rest of the year.
4. Threatening other programs: The bill, having to be payed for somehow, threatens other programs in the process. For instance, the "Tricare for Life" program, (which pays for retired military medical benefits) is now seriously effected. This bill only means one thing. Either taxes are going to skyrocket or it has to gut other programs in order to pay for it. Either way this is a big problem.
There are even more issues of great concern over the bill, but this is the meat and potato's.

"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

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