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Stile
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Message 12 of 15 (551134)
03-21-2010 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by IAmMe77777
03-18-2010 5:39 AM


Are you sure you think A is A?
Hello IAmMe77777, I hope you're having a good day today, and welcome to EvC.
IAmMe77777 writes:
It is a theory of how creation progressed, not the act of creation itself. A is A, and therefore science, cannot explain the act of creation because it is principle of observation.
I hope I understand what you mean by "A is A, and therefore science cannot explain the act of creatino because it is based upon principles of observation." It's not exactly how I'd put it, but I think I get what you're trying to say.
But, what makes you think there was an "act of creation" that requires a why in the first place? What happened to "A is A" for where this idea comes from?
What, specifically, shows to you that this universe was initiated through an act of creation? Why must that be true? Surely you understand the foibles of an "everything must come from something" argument. For one, you seem to agree that it's possible that "nothing" never existed. Therefore, the universe (possibly) always existed in some form. Therefore (if true), there would not be any act of creation that would require an explanation.
So again, what specifically makes you so sure that an act of creation occurred? That is, if you truely accept this "A is A" philosophy, what is it that concretely, objectively, verifiably shows that an act of creation must have happened?
If you're not sure that an act of creation actually happened, then all this stuff about faith and science coming together seems to be... well, let's just say... "not based on the A is A philosophy."

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Message 15 of 15 (551574)
03-23-2010 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by IAmMe77777
03-23-2010 3:14 AM


Re: Are you sure you think A is A?
IAmMe77777 writes:
Then why is there something rather than nothing?
A perfectly valid question.
However, this question is certainly not based upon any "A is A" philosophy. Don't you agree?
An A is A philosophy would accept that there is something (because we are here) and then look at what actually exists. Since nothing seems to point towards any "why" for us being here... an A is A philosophy would not bother with such a question until such a time as it becomes objective, and verifiable that such a question is warranted.
Until such a time, according to "A is A", such a question is as meaningless and useless as "why is Puff the Magic Dragon invisible to adults while other imaginary dragons are not?"
Both questions, about imaginary dragons and why we're here, are good questions within their own context. But neither question stems from an "A is A" philosophy.
Don't you agree that such questions have nothing to do with an "A is A" philosophy? The question can be answered, but only outside of any obejectively based philosophy. It is a subjective question, and therefore will have a subjective answer. Such things are certainly not "A is A". Before we proceed with these and any other subjective questions, I suggest that we first clear up your standing with this A is A philosophy. Such a standing will have an impact upon any subjective questions anyway.
Your persistance in requiring an answer for this question seems to imply that "A is A" most certainly is not your personal philosophy.

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