Here's a classic for ye, laddie.
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I will tell you a pleasant tale which has in it a touch of pathos. A man got religion, and asked the priest what he must do to be worthy of his new estate. The priest said, "Imitate our Father in Heaven, learn to be like him." The man studied his Bible diligently and thoroughly and understandingly, and then with prayers for heavenly guidance instituted his imitations. He tricked his wife into falling downstairs, and she broke her back and became a paralytic for life; he betrayed his brother into the hands of a sharper, who robbed him of his all and landed him in the almshouse; he inoculated one son with hookworms, another with the sleeping sickness, another with gonorrhea; he furnished one daughter with scarlet fever and ushered her into her teens deaf, dumb, and blind for life; and after helping a rascal seduce the remaining one, he closed his doors against her and she died in a brothel cursing him. Then he reported to the priest, who said that that was no way to imitate his Father in Heaven. The convert asked wherein he had failed, but the priest changed the subject and inquired what kind of weather he was having, up his way.
Now, unlike your own pathetic scribblings, this one has merit. For instead of having been penned in complete and utter ignorance, this one was well-thought-out.
Instead of trying to imagine what values atheists have, why not try to discover them? It's been discussed here quite a bit. For example, Buzsaw asked to know what unique atheist values there may be (all the while abjectly ignoring the responses he got), so I offered this:
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This might help compare Christian values with non-Christian values. While the non-Christian values are not exclusively atheists' values (ie, non-atheist non-Christians also share them), they are quite different from Christian values.
A couple years ago, I had stumbled across this documentary film's site: No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.divorcinggod.org. The film examined the conflicts between evangelicals' Biblical beliefs and the harsh realities of divorce; this is a particularly important subject since evangelicals have a divorce rate much higher than the general public. The site used to also have personal stories by people who had themselves gone through that experience, but they're no longer there. I did save a poem while it was still up, which I'm reposting here since it contrasts several Christian and non-Christian values:
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Defining Friendship
When I left my husband, my Christian friends gossiped and judged.
My non-Christian friends loved and accepted.
My Christian friends said things like, We have the right to know why you’re doing this.
You are taking advantage of God’s grace.
I love you but I don’t agree with you.
You will loose everything you ever worked for.
I’m sorry that you gave up your place in eternity for this.
My non-Christian friends said I’m here for you no matter what.
My Christian friends forwarded emails about my personal business.
My non-Christian friends asked me about my personal business.
My Christian friends said This is not OK.
My non-Christian friends said Are you OK?
My Christian friends left me out of their weddings and parties.
My non-Christian friends let me into their homes and lives.
My Christian friends need to surround themselves with other people just like them to justify their own insecurities.
My non-Christian friends value people different than them because they have room in their mind to learn from others.
My Christian friends think they know all the answers.
My non-Christian friends know we don’t have the answers.
My Christian friends called me ‘selfish.’
My non-Christian friends called me ‘honest.’
My Christian friends want everyone to like them.
My non-Christian friends want to like themselves.
My Christian friends are scared it could happen in their own marriage.
My non-Christian friends are secure with their spouses because they did not choose them based on spiritual delusion.
My Christian friends were unhappy for themselves.
My non-Christian friends were happy for me.
My Christian friends haven’t called me once since the divorce.
My non-Christian friends won’t leave me alone.
God forgive me if I’ve ever been a Christian friend.
I should also mention that I have myself, as an atheist, been subjected to vicious discrimination by a nationally respected organization that vociferously professes to be "absolutely non-sectarian" while very specifically violates its own rules in order to discriminate against anyone whose religious views are not the same as the professional leadership's. I have also been threatened with physical violance by
Christians because I referred to their god by a name that they did not understand (the true name of YODH-HAY-VAV-HAY).
So do you have any actual point to make? Or do you just want to defame real people, acutal
Menschen (sorry if you're too myopically Christian to understand some very basic Yiddish), solely on the basis of your own narrowly sectarian prejudice.
Do you really believe that you know what atheists think and believe? Do you have actual Bible verses that tell you that? If so, then do please present those verses, chapter and verse!
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