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Rrhain Member (Idle past 1105 days) Posts: 6349 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined:
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Phat asks about Peter Boghossian:
Here's PZ Myers opinion of him: He's a bit of a sexist prick at best. Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time. Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 737 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined:
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You paint with a broad brush sir. I do agree that religion CAN be dangerous so can any intolerant group to include atheistic regimes. "You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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ringo Member Posts: 19521 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.8 |
My brush is much narrower than theirs. An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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KyleConno Junior Member (Idle past 724 days) Posts: 12 Joined: |
Atheists believe that there is a force beyond humans that governs the nature but they disapprove the theory of naming the force and dividing it into different religions.
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Phat Member Posts: 15934 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.3 |
This is an interesting theory, Kyle. Can you elaborate a bit?
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)
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Tangle Member Posts: 8485 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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Just for Phat's benefit - I can feel him getting all excited - this is not language atheists would use. Atheists don't believe in forces beyond humans. If they talk about 'forces' at all, it's in the physics sense, not the mystical. All that an atheist is is someone who doesn't believe in god(s). End. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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AlexCaledin Member (Idle past 700 days) Posts: 63 From: Samara, Russia Joined: |
Atheists do believe that they, wretched things on a tiny planet hopelessly lost in the multiverse, to die forever very soon, are nevertheless absolutely the greatest ones!
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Tangle Member Posts: 8485 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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Don't be silly. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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ringo Member Posts: 19521 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.8 |
Why would we need to know where we are in the multiverse? It isn't like we can't get everything we need right here. In fact, we know a lot more than we need to know about the neighbourhood. An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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Phat Member Posts: 15934 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.3 |
Alex is just pointing out how arrogant people are being so small and claiming to have no need for a Creator. God is like oxygen...you wont even miss Him until you need Him.
There are no atheists in locked school classrooms during crazy shootings. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)
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ringo Member Posts: 19521 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.8 |
What's arrogant is thinking you know anything about God.
How does God help the victims? An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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Tangle Member Posts: 8485 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
Yeh, well Alex is just saying dumb things.
You do spout some utter crap sometimes Phat. How can anyone miss something that doesn't exist?
Of course there are. You just default to these religious tropes without even thinking don't you? Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Phat Member Posts: 15934 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.3 |
Believing otherwise is not that irrational...just unknown. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)
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ringo Member Posts: 19521 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.8 |
But you said, "There are no atheists in locked school classrooms during crazy shootings." Why would they not be atheists? Are they hoping God will save them? It seems to me that in a bad situation people are more likely to realize that there is no external help - i.e. no God. An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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Phat Member Posts: 15934 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.3 |
Add: My claim is that in a situation where one might lose their life, many at that moment will buy the product. The risk makes it worthwhile. Edited by Phat, : No reason given. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)
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