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subbie
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Message 386 of 526 (553764)
04-05-2010 12:04 AM
Reply to: Message 384 by Faith
04-04-2010 11:45 PM


Re: The Absolute Principle
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master — that's all."
- Lewis Carrol

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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subbie
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Message 388 of 526 (553767)
04-05-2010 12:10 AM
Reply to: Message 387 by Faith
04-05-2010 12:06 AM


Re: The Absolute Principle
Faith my dear, you are free to argue against any form of governmental welfare. There are any number of compelling arguments. And if you think it's immoral, if you think it's akin to stealing, you can take that position. But you cannot simply ignore what the word means and give it one of your own. At least you can't if you want to debate in good faith with other people. And if you really think that your daffynition would have been accepted by any significant number of people at any point in time in the past, I'd be delighted to see actual evidence in support of that proposition, as opposed to your assertion that such is the case.
If all you want to do is make up your own language and expect everyone else to go along with it, you really belong back on your own site.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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subbie
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Message 390 of 526 (553769)
04-05-2010 12:13 AM
Reply to: Message 389 by Faith
04-05-2010 12:12 AM


Re: The Absolute Principle
Praytell, I beg you, how is it illogical and Wonderland-like for us to insist that you use a word the way that the rest of the English speaking world does?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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subbie
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Message 393 of 526 (553772)
04-05-2010 12:28 AM
Reply to: Message 374 by Faith
04-04-2010 10:21 PM


Re: Contradictions, moral law, helpers, niceness
Faith writes:
Stealing has nothing to do with what you do with the money and I've never said it does. It has to do with what you did to GET the money, specifically, you didn't EARN it and it wasn't GIVEN to you by its rightful possessor either.
Faith writes:
The police DO something in exchange for the money they get from the government. They WORK to protect the community. They are being PAID for their WORK.
Amazingly, Faith sees no contradiction in these two statements.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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