Marxism

I do believe you don't fully understand the words you are using.socialism generally refers to an economic system, while communism generally refers to both an economic and a political system.Communism, seeks to manage both the economy and the society by ensuring that property is owned collectively, and that control over the distribution of property is centralized in order to achieve both classlessness and statelessness. To keep everyone equal in a society.Socialism seeks to manage economy through social control. Socialists, see capitalism as a possible part of the state and believe that socialism can exist in a capitalist society. One of the ideas of socialism is that everyone within the society will benefit from capitalism as much as possible as long as the capitalism is controlled somehow by a centralized planning system to keep it within a state in which it doesn't do serious damage to any members of the society.Please don't let the "Conservative" brainwashing of the 1980's persist in modern times. Calling someone a socialist and a communist is very ignorant and lacks understanding. To top it off many people throw the word Nazi in with these two even though the Nazi Party was founded to fight the "evil" communists.

You missed the point of me defining and telling you the difference between communism and Socialism.Taxes to fund government programs and regulating business in order to keep them from abusing and doing harm to other members of society IS NOT Marxist or communist it is socialist. Please learn the difference. These words have specific meanings. If you don't understand what they are then how are we to understand what you're trying to say?Communism is not socialism.Calling a socialist a communist is like calling a libertarian a Nazi. That's how big the difference is.(yes Nazi party ideas are to the "right" not the "left" but are a huge leap from libertarian)

Change the name Marx to Reagan or any other "conservative" that thinks a 100% free capitalist market can work and we may have something here.Both sound great in theory neither can work

You missed the point of me defining and telling you the difference between communism and Socialism.Taxes to fund government programs and regulating business in order to keep them from abusing and doing harm to other members of society IS NOT Marxist or communist it is socialist. Please learn the difference. These words have specific meanings. If you don't understand what they are then how are we to understand what you're trying to say?Communism is not socialism.Calling a socialist a communist is like calling a libertarian a Nazi. That's how big the difference is.(yes Nazi party ideas are to the "right" not the "left" but are a huge leap from libertarian)

Here for you to read THIS TIME is what I wrote in message 27

quote:

---

I do believe you don't fully understand the words you are using.

​

socialism generally refers to an economic system, while communism generally refers to both an economic and a political system.

​

Communism, seeks to manage both the economy and the society by ensuring that property is owned collectively, and that control over the distribution of property is centralized in order to achieve both classlessness and statelessness. To keep everyone equal in a society.

​

Socialism seeks to manage economy through social control. Socialists, see capitalism as a possible part of the state and believe that socialism can exist in a capitalist society. One of the ideas of socialism is that everyone within the society will benefit from capitalism as much as possible as long as the capitalism is controlled somehow by a centralized planning system to keep it within a state in which it doesn't do serious damage to any members of the society.

​

Please don't let the "Conservative" brainwashing of the 1980's persist in modern times. Calling someone a socialist and a communist is very ignorant and lacks understanding. To top it off many people throw the word Nazi in with these two even though the Nazi Party was founded to fight the "evil" communists.

---

Why do you distant socialist policies from socialism? Do you think Socialism is bad even though socialist governments have been proven to work? They are two very different words with different meanings.... so no.
Calling a socialist a communist is like calling a libertarian a Nazi. Except they would be wrong Nazism was founded as an extreme effort to fight communism. It is an extreme "right" wing idea.You continue to show your ignorance by throwing dictatorships into the mix. So you're saying that anything that oppresses people is to the left?Wow... Do you understand economics beyond Glen Beck's Chalk board?Edited by DC85, : No reason given.

no fascism is almost the opposite of Communism .... I would suggest NOT getting your definitions off of Glen Beck's retarded Chalk Board

What is the difference? How is saving you from a fire or keeping a rapist or a murderer off the street not taking care of you? How is it different from helping you recover from a disease?

except they are defined at two different parts of the political spectrum communism is damn near opposite of fascism.... Just because both have lead to wide spread oppression doesn't mean they are the same thing. You need to understand that you cannot lump Nazis , Socialists and Communists as the same thing because every one of these words has a completely different meaning. If you go far enough to the left you're communist if you go far enough to the right you're a fascist. There is no theory about it.YOU'RE WRONGEdited by DC85, : No reason given.Edited by DC85, : No reason given.

Who said this is it's job?I thought the idea of the government was to governHere are some other words that are considered synonyms for governmanage
administrate
direct
overseeWell... It seems the government is here to manage the country and make sure the country running smoothly.Wouldn't you say a business that has become powerful and abusive to the point where it is causing harm to general population should be regulated?Wouldn't you say looking out for the health and well being of a country as a whole would help the country and make it stronger?I say it would be poor management not to do these things

Ronald Reagan was genius at abstract theory and an idiot when it comes to realityoh wait... yes that's what I intended to say.... Yet Obama has proven to be more conservative then Bush as far as expanding Government. Yet I heard nothing about massive Tea parties back then... except for the person who started them Mr. Ron Paul who has now been plowed down by the the idiots who hijacked the "movement" Who has the mainstream media? It ISN'T the left because the corporations pay for and own the mainstream media.....I thought the left wanted to destroy business... hmmmmI think you need to rethink this without listening to the druggie on the radio of course they are but if they become to powerful to the point of doing harm to general population shouldn't they be regulated?Edited by DC85, : No reason given.

considering most what was said at the time was fabricated and propaganda and still is concerning Communism. I now more then ever am sure you don't know what you're talking about. You've proven this because you honestly think fascism , Socialism and Communism are the same thing. I need examples. Edited by DC85, : No reason given.

I agree to an extent. However the competition you describe no longer exists. you need the banks the banks don't need you. They're aware of this and charge outrageous interest and fees. To say don't go there or don't shop there in the current state is really an ignorant thing to say. He controls the market and has a product everyone needs so he charges outrageous prices and people have little choice but to pay it. I don't know what country you're living in but this what the United States is now.

No... I wasn't the one who said in theory.I think Communism leads to oppression. I simply pointed out that you don't have a clue what you're talking about because USSR style communism is still not fascism.You also still have the Bizarre idea that Socialism and communism are the same thing. considering you don't have a clue what you're talking about I must assume they weren'tEdited by DC85, : No reason given.Edited by DC85, : No reason given.

Could you be seeing what you want to see? Maybe what you're told you see?Like recently right wingers have been complaining about the coverage of the tea parties... I've seen these people in action a large percentage of them don't have a clue what they're protesting and going off on hate rants.While I disagree with Ron Paul on most issues this "movement" is not the tea party that he started and has been hijacked by idiots. It's now dangerous. I've witnessed these people first hand!

You've done the same to me. I've pointed out the differences between Socialism and communism and you still say they're the same thing and claim fascism is part of communism...the only justification for this idea you have is that you had or have communists friends.Let's try this. Please Define each word as you see itSocialism:Marxism:Communism:fascism:Edited by DC85, : No reason given.