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Author Topic:   The Big Bang and Conservation of angular momentum??
Huntard
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Message 4 of 99 (552791)
03-31-2010 3:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by benjamin.henri
03-31-2010 3:28 AM


Hello Mr. Hovind...
And welcome to EvC! /sarcasm
You got this from Kent Hovind, didn't you?
benjamin.henri writes:
So my question is how can The Big Bang theory fit in with the conservation of Angular momentum?
Perfectly. More explanation below.
If there was a Big Bang of when the matter was spinning impossibly fast then blew up...
There wasn't. Case closed
Ok, some more explanation. The Big Bang was not matter spinning very fast and then blowing up, it was the expansion of space-time. Nothing blew up, nothing was spinning. I suggest you read up a bit on what the Big Bang theory actually says before you continue in this vain.
everythin in the universe MUST spin in the exact same direction, but this is not aparent as even in our own solar system there are two planets that spin backwards there are ven entire galaxies that spin backwards, how is this possible according to Cosmology Evolution
I'll leave these to someone else.
Suffice to say that none of this is a breach of the conservation of angular momentum, the planets that spin "the other way" do so most likely because of some major impact early in their existence, that made them turn the other way. Notice that they also do this very slowly, and at a very weird axial position.
A tip for you, if you use the "peek" button on the lower right of my post, you'll see how I did those quoteboxes. It helps keep your posts looking nice and easy to read.
And a bonus tip: Everything else Hovind says is just as wrong.

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Huntard
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Message 7 of 99 (552794)
03-31-2010 4:14 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by benjamin.henri
03-31-2010 4:05 AM


I'd start with this wikipedia article. If there are any questions after that, ask them. We've got actual physicists here on the board, and some very intersted lay people, who I am sure are willing to help.

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Huntard
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Message 11 of 99 (552817)
03-31-2010 9:26 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by cavediver
03-31-2010 9:17 AM


Re: Why not try it yourself?
cavediver writes:
Sadly, our new friend has expunged his OP - probably in extreme embarrassment to be caught out by the unbelievable dishonesty and/or unfathomable stupidity of our friend Kent Hovind.
But lucky for us, he left his Message 1 in his original proposal (The Big Bang and Conservation of angular momentum??) untouched. To keep full disclosure, here is the original OP reproduced:
benjamin.henri writes:
So my question is how can The Big Bang theory fit in with the conservation of Angular momentum?
The conservation of angular momentum says that if an object is spinning and a piece seperate from that object and "flies" off then that piece must spin in the same direction. For example if a kid is on a merry go round and the mery go round speeds up by spinning in a clockwise direction to a point where the kid would literally fly off it then the kid must spin in a clockwise direction when he flies of it.
If there was a Big Bang of when the matter was spinning impossibly fast then blew up the everythin in the universe MUST spin in the exact same direction, but this is not aparent as even in our own solar system there are two planets that spin backwards there are ven entire galaxies that spin backwards, how is this possible according to Cosmology Evolution
Don't be embarassed, Benjamin, just realise how wrong Hovind is, and don't buy into any other of his lies.

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Huntard
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Message 28 of 99 (559912)
05-12-2010 3:36 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by dennis780
05-12-2010 12:35 AM


Re: Hello Mr. Hovind...
So, this response shows you don't actually know what you're talking about.
I'll list the mistakes to make it easy for you:
dennis780 writes:
Saying that three planets have retrograde orbits due to impact is an OPINION, not a fact.
1) Only two planets have retrograde rotation. None have retrograde orbits.
And none of the planets have "wierd" axial orbits except for Jupiter, which rotates on it's side.
2) It's called axial tilt, not axial orbit.
3) Jupiter does not spin on its side, it has an axial tilt of about 3 degrees.
4) Uranus has an axial tilt of about 98 degrees. This is the frst planet with retrograde rotation.
5) Venus has an axial tilt of about 177 degrees. This is the second planet to have a retrograde rotation.
6) Compare this to the other planets axial tilts (Mercury 0.01 degrees, Earth 23.44 degrees, Mars 25.19 degrees, Jupiter 3.13 degrees, Saturn 26.73 degrees and Neptune 28.32 degrees), and it's very clear they have "weird" axial tilts.
7) If the third "planet" you were refeering to is Pluto, that is no longer a planet.
So, that makes 7 (6 if we're generous) mistakes in a reply that is 4 sentences long. And you're calling me stupid? Ha! You're a funny guy Dennis.
If you can't even get these basic facts straight, why in the world would we listen to anything else you've got to say?
Edited by Huntard, : Typo

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Huntard
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Message 35 of 99 (559925)
05-12-2010 4:30 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by dennis780
05-12-2010 4:03 AM


Re: Hello Mr. Hovind...
dennis780 writes:
When did they kick Pluto from the system anyways??
See, it are things like this that make people wonder if you know what you're talking about. This was back in 2006 as a simple search on google or wikipedia would have told you. It does not fit the qualifications of a planet as decided on by the IAU.
Thanks. And my mom always said I'd be good at nothing hey? But at least I'm getting called stupid for making spelling errors.
You did far more than make spelling errors. You said Jupiter was on its side, it isn't, you said Uranus wasn't, it is. You said only Jupiter had a weird axial tilt, it doesn't, yet the two retrograde planets do. As does Pluto, by the way, its axial tilt is about 120 degrees. If you can't even get those simple facts straight, what else do you get wrong? And to top it all off, you said I was the stupid one for "copy pasting from someone" with no intelligence. First of all, I didn't copy paste that, I wrote that myself, second, you were implying it was completely wrong by saying it was written by someone with no intelligence. Yet it is you who makes the most fundamental mistakes in your reply to me. And now you act all hurt because somebody called you stupid because of a few "spelling errors", which weren't spelling errors, but complete word errors, changing the meaning of what you were trying to say completely. You repeated these several times, so it's not like it was an isolated mistake either. I don't care about simple spelling errors, they can happen to anybody, but getting the simple facts of the matter wrong (saying Jupiter is on its side, for instance) is inexcusable, and shows a lack of knowledge large enough to question anything else you have to say about this subject.

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2321 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
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Message 73 of 99 (565807)
06-21-2010 8:02 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by dennis780
06-21-2010 7:48 AM


Re: Just to confuse things further...
dennis780 writes:
I cannot find your post where you "demolish everything you have said here"
repost please. Or tell me what page it is on.
I cannot find your post where you "demolish everything you have said here"
repost please. Or tell me what page it is on.
I think he meant his Message 46.

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