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Theodoric
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Message 320 of 577 (563123)
06-03-2010 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 312 by tesla
06-02-2010 10:56 PM


Re: Those Who Ignore History Are Destined To Repeat It
Although i do not agree with the assessment that early man was an ape. But that early man was early man.
Last I checked, we are still apes.

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Message 472 of 577 (568668)
07-07-2010 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 445 by sac51495
06-26-2010 12:01 AM


Liar? misinformed?
so I'll just mention that the NIV is based on the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are the absolute oldest manuscripts we have.
This is far from accurate. It is not "based" on the dead sea scrolls. The scrolls were referenced that is about it. Lots of the dead sea scrolls are not part of the accepted canon. So your statement that it is based on the dead scrolls is complete and utter bullshit.
From the publishers website
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For the Old Testament the standard Hebrew text, the Masoretic Text as published in the latest editions of Biblia Hebraica, was used throughout. The Dead Sea Scrolls contain material bearing on an earlier stage of Hebrew text. They were consulted, as were the Samaritan Pentateuch and the ancient scribal traditions relating to textual changes. Sometimes a variant Hebrew reading in the margin of the Masoretic Text was followed instead of the text itself. Such instances, being variant within the Masoretic tradition, are not specified by footnotes. In rare cases, words in the consonantal text were divided differently from the way they appear in the Masoretic Text. Footnotes indicate this. The translators also consulted the more important early versions - the Septuagint; Aquila, Symmachus and Theodotion; the Vulgate; the Syriac Peshitta; the Targums; and for the Psalms the Juxta Hebraica of Jerome. Readings from these versions were occasionally followed where the Masoretic Text seemed doubtful and where accepted principles of textual criticism showed that one or more of these textual witnesses appeared to provide the correct reading. Such instances are footnoted. Sometimes vowel letters and vowel signs did not, in the judgment of the translators, represent the correct vowels for the original consonantal text. Accordingly some words were read with a different set of vowels. These instances are usually not indicated by footnotes.
My bold.
A Bible could be translated today, and if it was based on the original letters of the apostles, and the original writings of the patriarchs and prophets etc., then it would have only been "corrupted" once.
There are no originals. Or maybe you have some sort of access no one knows about?

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Theodoric
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Message 506 of 577 (569622)
07-22-2010 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 505 by PaulK
07-22-2010 1:32 PM


Re: The Irrelevance Of Ontology
Maybe it is a euphemism for something else. Like how the bible uses "to know".

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