Underlying Philosophy

sac51495, I am going to ask a direct question which begs a direct answer.Is atheism the presupposition of what you believe in RAZD's case despite his signature, or is atheism the conclusion of what you believe in RAZD's case despite his signature?Pay attention to detail.Why don't you do some homework before making yourself appear the fool? Like look at RAZD's signature?

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

First, you speak for yourself alone. Not everyone is stuck in a pre-moral state in Kohlberg's Stages of Moral Development.From the source above:

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STAGE 1: PUNISHMENT AND OBEDIENCE ORIENTATION

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What could be called a "premoral" stage, what an agent will do is determined by calculating the immediate physical consequences that might ensue not the moral value of an action. By deferring to power, the agent's overarching goal is to avoid physical punishment. Thus, at stage one, obedience not moral sentiments or compunction characterizes decision making.

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Perhaps you can answer this for me. I notice that when some self-proclaimed Christians are intellectually challenged, as you have been in this forum, they immediately resort to metaphors of violence. Why are they so defiant of the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament, haven't they read it? The Gideons give it away for free, just ask.Also, proof is not a scientific concept, it is a concept of math and law. If you want to discuss science as if you actually knew something about the subject, either use the accurate term evidence or display your ignorance for all to see.Edited by anglagard, : Added quote as fundamentalists are notorious for not clicking on hypertext.Edited by anglagard, : Last two sentences of first paragraph added for emphasisEdited by anglagard, : use term 'scientific concept' instead of 'science' for accuracy

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

Yes, I am also curious as to where this arbitrary boundary can be drawn.Oh well, it is difficult for some people to understand the fundamental theory of calculus, namely that a whole lot of discrete points become, to all extents and purposes, a curve. Or that a series can sum to up, to all extents and purposes, a whole number.These limits to understanding can be overcome, but it takes time (hopefully not on the geologic scale), for some more than others.

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

Is that the same Edgar Cayce who predicted California would sink into the ocean in 1969 (contrary to the principle of isostasy)? I remember the jokes on Laugh-In.

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

However, you evidently believe that your interpretation of the one out of 30,000 versions of the Bible that you consider 'the word of god' should be above any examination.If you don't think you have it right (an admirable show of humility before God), how can you think your interpretation of your preferred version of the Bible is the absolute truth?

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen