Underlying Philosophy

Evolutionists are essentially materialists who use science as a cover for their ideology. It is the predominate philosophy here. You can see it all over on this website.MATERIALIST BELIEFS1. believes that all religious endeavor is a waste of time and energy, that there is no God, and all so-called paranormal or psychic phenomena are quackery and superstition.2. believes that there is no such thing as the soul; death of the body is death of the mind, and there is no reincarnation or afterlife.3. believes that the material universe, governed by natural laws and chance, is the ultimate and only reality and that all apparently nonmaterial substances, such as mind, are explicable as modifications of matter.4. believes that science is the means of understanding all the secrets of the universe, for all phenomena are the result of material processes which are governed by predictable, natural laws.5. believes that free will is an illusion; that each event, being a fortuitous combination of particles and forces, can only happen in one way and is thus predetermined (deterministic materialism).6. believes that there is no objective higher purpose in life, no absolute basis for ethics or morality and no retribution for sin or reward for virtue. Seeking pleasure and avoiding pain are the only two goals rational men will pursue what pleases me is good, what pains me is bad (hedonistic materialism).7. believes that all novel qualities of existence can be derived from changing material conditions that men’s mental and spiritual life, their ideas and aims, reflect their material conditions of existence (dialectical materialism).8. believes that though not all things consist of matter or its modifications, whatever exists can be satisfactorily explained in natural terms (modified or naturalistic materialism).9. believes that man, the highest and most complex of the evolutionary process prevailing throughout the universe, may continue to evolve into an even more perfect being or higher species (utopian materialism).

steaming pile... that's all you can come with? Where are the mods.You get away with a lot apparently because you say what they want to hear, not because it is correct or that you ever substantiate it. However characters such as yourself do reveal the deep bias of this forum. Edited by IchiBan, : No reason given.

Here's some for for yah. And it fits you like a glove.Methodological naturalism (or scientific naturalism) requires that hypotheses be explained and tested only by reference to natural causes and events.Naturalistic materialism is one of the core components of Marxist Atheism.Communism emerged around the turn of the 20th century in present-day Russia as "a hypothetical stage of socialism, as formulated by Marx, Engels, Lenin and others, to be characterized by a utopian classless and stateless society and the equal distribution of economic goods and to be achieved by revolutionary and dictatorial, rather than gradualistic, means" (Webster's New World Dictionary). Communism is proudly atheistic and seeks to liberate mankind from superstition and "spiritual bondage."COMMUNIST BELIEFS1. believes there is no God and no knowable providential order, that this physical world is the only reality, physical beings are the only real beings, and reason is man’s highest faculty.2. believes religion is the opiate of the people, an exploiters’ tool of oppression that should be eliminated and its resources redirected to improving world conditions to lift mankind from misery.3. believes mysticism and religion are primitive and fraught with error, prejudice and superstition, and that modern science, based on materialism and empirical evidence, is the only respectable avenue to useful knowledge.4. believes that each person has but a single life and that death is final. Therefore, in this life we are to attain all that is deemed worthwhile and express our finer qualities in service to the greater social good.5. believes that as in the case of nature, history evolves in a continuous line from lower to higher forms, from tribalism, feudalism and capitalism to its final maturity in socialism, and that the collapse of capitalism and the establishment of socialism will usher in an age of peace and plenty, when state control will no longer be needed.6. believes there is no knowable providential order, that death is permanent, that God does not exist and that the highest life is one of intense consciousness.

[qs]I will destroy every assertion[qs] In your mind, and maybe here in this little cult of an outfit. But not out in the greater world

Another outstanding characteristic of the evolutionist is while being not all that deeply intellectual, they are in love with their own intellects. Narcissism its called.

Hey look I am not the one who resorts to referring to people as 'steaming piles' etc like you did to me.I am not trolling at all. People like Coyote et al are just not used to having their cage rattled in this little evolutionist echo chamber.I could show you hundreds of examples but I doubt you or they would ever see it.have a good ay

ExistentialismExistentialism arose in Europe in the mid-nineteenth century. It teaches that God does not exist, or cannot be known, and affirms individuality and freedom. Stress is on transcendence of the mundane world through exaltation of will, the meaninglessness of existence and the absence of a substratum upon which to base truths or values. Man simply exists, free to create his own meaning in life. It is, however, important to bear in mind that there is a vital strain of religious, or quasi-religious, existentialism as well.EXISTENTIALIST BELIEFS1. believes that there is no knowable providential order in nature or in the larger realm of existence or cosmos.2. believes that the being of man is ultimately meaningless, which is to say that man knows not why he exists and cannot rise to the knowledge of his destiny.3. believes that each man is an individual and should break his dependence on society and rely solely upon his own individual life, spirit, personality and thought.4. believes that immortality is not a condition of man. Death is quite realistically seen as an ultimate end and radical fact which cannot be overcome. Man should not tolerate even an anguished hope of personal survival.5. believes that harmony and security in human relationships are impossible to achieve, and the only satisfactory attitude toward others is based upon explicit recognition of this fact.
6. believes that "Evil is not an illusion. It is not the effect of passions which might be cured, or a fear which might be overcome. It is not an ignorance which might be enlightened. Evil cannot be redeemed" (Sartre).7. believes that God does not exist.8. believes that the highest and best life is lived in the intensity of being fully conscious of the life experience. This experience necessarily contains problems, struggle, suffering and conflict. This is man's unalterable reality within which his free, creative action and choice gives birth to the fullness of consciousness which would otherwise be deadened by security and contentment.9. believes that the soul of man is not whole without such unpleasant things as death, anxiety, guilt, fear and trembling, and despair. It would be the final error of reason to deny that these emotions exist, or to strive to manipulate them out of existence. Therefore, it can be said that nothing can be accomplished by denying that man is essentially a troubled being, except to make more trouble.

Secular HumanismHumanism is "a modern, nontheistic, rationalist movement that holds that man is capable of self-fulfillment, ethical conduct, etc., without recourse to supernaturalism" (Webster's New World Dictionary). By the term secular this stream distinguishes itself from theistic (Christian) humanism. Secular humanism evolved out of 18th-century rejection of revealed Christianity and the emergence of modern science and free thought. Modern secular humanists condemn and refute all assertions of divine or paranormal phenomena.SECULAR HUMANIST BELIEFS1. believes in nontheism, as there is no rational proof for the existence of God, and do not delude myself with thoughts of a Supreme Being.2. believes that traditional religions and faiths preach false doctrines, are oppressive and lead their followers toward ignorance, bigotry and dogmatism, and that it is my duty to be actively skeptical of and challenge the illusions of orthodox religions and all attempts to explain the world in supernatural terms.3. believes in the preservation and enhancement of the human species as my ultimate concern, and in the global human family, which must preserve the Earth for future generations through developing a secular, planetary morality and system of law.4. believes that living a good, moral life is the best means for individual and collective happiness and that morality has a rational, secular basis.5. believes in expanding human rights and intellectual and moral freedom, and in secular democracy, with strict separation of church and state, as the means of eliminating discrimination and attaining equality and justice for all.6. believes in the development of the creative human potential through education in the arts and sciences and in the paramount importance of free inquiry in an open, pluralistic, universalist society.7. believes in the application and development of reason and modern science as the highest means to understanding the universe, solving human problems and enabling each individual to realize his greatest potential.8. believes in striving for fulfillment and happiness in this life and reject all notions of reincarnation and afterlife as false and baseless, seeking my fullest capacity as a human being here and now, serving others and creating a better, more just world.9. believes in Darwin's theory of evolution as scientific fact, and in naturalism, holding that the known world is all that exists, and that it has no supernatural or spiritual creation, control or significance.

Actually I got it from this website HIMALAYANACADEMY.COM Read & Learn And I got it from there because it reflects best my take on the Atheistic Philosophies.So it's not from a 'creationist' website by any means.And it was obvious that I did not write it my self contemporaneously, so I did not put it in quotes.It all comes down to destroy the messenger here because you dont like the message.And finally I dont know why respect from 'we' is so important since 'all you guys' are not so clean yourself, so how about dropping the sanctimonious attitudes.

No he he came out with that at me from the outset, and if you look at his posting history he uses that as a rebuttal fairly often.I would be happy to start a thread on these topics if I felt it would be a quality debate, a discussion, a dialogue. But given the responses I read from Coyote et al, and they way they set upon people with their provocations, I do not have a high confidence of that happening.That is where my frustration comes from and I guess my impulse to hand a little of it back to them.Yes I know I can be guilty of the same thing but its a matter of degree in my opinion and I am willing to own my part in it, something you hardly if never see form 'the evolutionist'Regards,